What are they doing with this horse?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I agree he's not ready for longer races, but the Kelso? That seems right up his alley. I didn't get Mettee's comment about how shortening him up would work. Yes, he can win because he's talented, but he's not a pure sprinter and I think he'd be better off in the Mile. He wasn't injured or sick that I know off.............and I'm not sure what your point is with Music Note. These abbreviated campaigns (which are planned on purpose) are annoying. I looked forward to seeing Girolamo run this year, so yes - to me this year was a waste. I don't think this move is resulting in an uproar - it's just a couple of us disagree with it.

They're potentially running Vineyard Haven and Regal Ransom in the Kelso.

I'm no fan of the way they campaign their horses but cutting Girolamo back is fine. He's pretty overrated when you get down to it, he got pummeled in stakes as a 2YO then came back last year with a jaw-dropping win over Burley's Gold and Kensei in the Jerome, big deal.

NT

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

what would the darleys do with a real trainer like linda rice ..if she can make karakorum anything win ....

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

They're potentially running Vineyard Haven and Regal Ransom in the Kelso.

I'm no fan of the way they campaign their horses but cutting Girolamo back is fine. He's pretty overrated when you get down to it, he got pummeled in stakes as a 2YO then came back last year with a jaw-dropping win over Burley's Gold and Kensei in the Jerome, big deal.

NT

Overrated based on what and compared to who? I disagree with you. He came back strong last year and was forced in the Classic. Now he comes back sprinting and now cuts back again. He is being handled the wrong way.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Overrated based on what and compared to who? I disagree with you. He came back strong last year and was forced in the Classic. Now he comes back sprinting and now cuts back again. He is being handled the wrong way.

They did a similar move with Music Note last year after a ho-hum Ogden Phipps, cutting her back to the 7f Ballerina which she crushed. Not that I agree with the move, but I suppose they are hoping for similar luck with this horse.

The other issue is all the other nags they have all pointing to the same races. For whatever reason, Vineyard Haven, the most likely candidate of theirs, is not pointing to the Vosburgh. Gayego, second in line, just broke a track record at a flat mile in a stakes after a few disappointing sprint efforts, so he's not going either. Regal Ransom, who probably should be sprinting (or trying to steal the JCGC on the front end), hasn't sprinted since his 2yo debut. Thus they really have no horse for the Vosburgh. So might as well throw Girolamo, who has never won around 2 turns, in there.

By the way, I wonder if anyone ever gave the Phipps Stable any hell for cutting back Dancing Spree in races like the True North and Forego in '89, even though he won the 10f Suburban the same year.

Of course, he ultimately won the BC Sprint, so if they did, they had to shut the fucl< up when it was all said and done.

Cuz the BC has the final say in all of this.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

They're potentially running Vineyard Haven and Regal Ransom in the Kelso.

I'm no fan of the way they campaign their horses but cutting Girolamo back is fine. He's pretty overrated when you get down to it, he got pummeled in stakes as a 2YO then came back last year with a jaw-dropping win over Burley's Gold and Kensei in the Jerome, big deal.

NT

Yeah, I know that - and I disagree with them. I also disagree on Girolamo, but that's fine.