Good win for the Jets

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Same old story on the road for the Pats - dominate the first half and fade badly in the second half.

I don't know if the Pats really dominated the first half. It was 14-10 at the half and one of the Pats scores came a few plays after a terrible hit to the head call on a failed 3rd down conversion.

Sanchez picked apart the Pats secondary. That is going to be a real problem area for you guys. Not to mention you have absolutely no running game. Pats will win their fair share of games without a doubt. But you guys are going to need to improve dramatically in those areas to advance at all in the playoffs.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I don't know if the Pats really dominated the first half. It was 14-10 at the half and one of the Pats scores came a few plays after a terrible hit to the head call on a failed 3rd down conversion.

Sanchez picked apart the Pats secondary. That is going to be a real problem area for you guys. Not to mention you have absolutely no running game. Pats will win their fair share of games without a doubt. But you guys are going to need to improve dramatically in those areas to advance at all in the playoffs.

Is this a joke?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Is this a joke?

No the joke is the blob of sh.it that looks back at you in the mirror everyday. What part do you disgree with?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

No the joke is the blob of sh.it that looks back at you in the mirror everyday. What part do you disgree with?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

A recap of the 2009 Patriots regular season road games: (they were 8-0 at home and 1-6 on the road - the game against Tampa was in London)


Road game #1: Led the Jets by 6 points at halftime. Didn't score a single point in the second half. Lost

Road game #2: Led the Broncos 17-7 at halftime. Didn't score a single point in the second half. Lost

Road game #3: Jumped out to a quick 21-0 lead against hapless Tampa in London and cruised.

Road game #4: Blew a 31-14 lead in the 4th quarter against the Colts. Monumental collapse down the stretch.

Road game #5: Led the Saints by a score of 7-3 at the end of the first quarter. They were outscored 35-10 in the final 3 quarters.

Road game #6: Jumped out to a quick 14-0 lead against the Dolphins. Blew the game in the second half. Another road L.

Road game #7: Jumped out to a quick 14-3 lead against the Bills and won despite being outscored in the second half.

Road game #8: Was leading Houston 27-13 in the 4th quarter - blew a huge lead in deep stretch by giving up 3 late touchdowns and lost the game.


2010:

Road game #1: Absolutely owned the first quarter against the Jets - blew a halftime lead and did not score a single second half point.


There's kind of a pattern here.....

[Dahoss]

How is a 14-10 lead absolutely owning them?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How is a 14-10 lead absolutely owning them?

I said they owned the first quarter.

I think the Pats had 11 first downs in the first quarter versus 0 for the Jets. I would say that is owning the first quarter.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I don't know if the Pats really dominated the first half. It was 14-10 at the half and one of the Pats scores came a few plays after a terrible hit to the head call on a failed 3rd down conversion.

Sanchez picked apart the Pats secondary. That is going to be a real problem area for you guys. Not to mention you have absolutely no running game. Pats will win their fair share of games without a doubt. But you guys are going to need to improve dramatically in those areas to advance at all in the playoffs.

Moss has to play better. Save the one TD catch - He otherwise had the single worst game I've ever seen him play in his entire career. He was awful beyond belief.

He had some games with the Raiders where he did nothing - but the offensive line was so hopeless - they couldn't even complete a seven step drop and he was basically reduced to an outside possession reciever with no chances.

Moss is the running game. The offensive lines pass blocking is Moss. As the O-line goes so should Moss. As Moss goes - so will the running game.

The defense isn't very good and that's the biggest concern.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Moss has to play better. Save the one TD catch - He otherwise had the single worst game I've ever seen him play in his entire career. He was awful beyond belief.

He had some games with the Raiders where he did nothing - but the offensive line was so hopeless - they couldn't even complete a seven step drop and he was basically reduced to an outside possession reciever with no chances.

Moss is the running game. The offensive lines pass blocking is Moss. As the O-line goes so should Moss. As Moss goes - so will the running game.

The defense isn't very good and that's the biggest concern.

This isn't very realistic. I agree that Moss has to play better, but does he really have an excuse for yesterday? Where was Welker in the 2nd half?

The O line played fine. But I can't see Faulk and BenJarvus Green Ellis having many 100 yard games.

The main thing I took out of the game is how good the Jets defense is. They put a lot less pressure on the QB than they usually do and forced Brady to beat them. He couldn't. Even Cromartie seemed to wake up when Revis got hurt.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This isn't very realistic. I agree that Moss has to play better, but does he really have an excuse for yesterday? Where was Welker in the 2nd half?

The O line played fine. But I can't see Faulk and BenJarvus Green Ellis having many 100 yard games.

The main thing I took out of the game is how good the Jets defense is. They put a lot less pressure on the QB than they usually do and forced Brady to beat them. He couldn't. Even Cromartie seemed to wake up when Revis got hurt.

Stat from yesterday that proves the Jets don't have to send the house to be successful, even without Revis: They sent 3 or 4 men on 63% of 2nd half plays and only sent 6+ men once and the Pats' passing attack still couldn't do anything. This will only get better with Pace back, likely in Week 4. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't anxious to see how they do against a team that actually employs running backs, but they held the fort without Jenkins last year, so I'm optimistic.

The Jets are better than the Patriots, period. As for the Dolphins, we'll get an idea on Sunday.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Stat from yesterday that proves the Jets don't have to send the house to be successful, even without Revis: They sent 3 or 4 men on 63% of 2nd half plays and only sent 6+ men once and the Pats' passing attack still couldn't do anything. This will only get better with Pace back, likely in Week 4. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't anxious to see how they do against a team that actually employs running backs, but they held the fort without Jenkins last year, so I'm optimistic.

The Jets are better than the Patriots, period. As for the Dolphins, we'll get an idea on Sunday.

I think (hope) they learned their lesson from the Ravens game.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Jets are better than the Patriots, period.

Lets see what happens in Foxboro. The Bengals got TKO'd there before they even knew what hit them.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Lets see what happens in Foxboro. The Bengals got TKO'd there before they even knew what hit them.

If they lose, I'll just blame some statistical trend that only I was smart enough to notice and has totally been the problem all along.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If they lose, I'll just blame some statistical trend that only I was smart enough to notice and has totally been the problem all along.

You'll have to find one.

The Patriots have collapsed on the road against everyone they've played.

It's getting to the point where road games are like watching a faint hearted sprinter come busting out of the gate early - and stopping to a walk in the stretch.

Vrabel has been an awesome leader in Kansas City of that defense this year - he forced a huge fumble that helped win them the Browns game. Richard Seymour is a truly outstanding player that the defense has missed and he's helped the Raiders D out a lot. Guys like Brusci and Rodney Harrison aren't a dime a dozen.

I think the Pats still have outstanding coaching - but in these road games - it seems like they're just so much better prepared on both sides of the ball early on .... but as the game progresses - it becomes a horror show.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This isn't very realistic. I agree that Moss has to play better, but does he really have an excuse for yesterday? Where was Welker in the 2nd half?

The O line played fine. But I can't see Faulk and BenJarvus Green Ellis having many 100 yard games.

The main thing I took out of the game is how good the Jets defense is. They put a lot less pressure on the QB than they usually do and forced Brady to beat them. He couldn't. Even Cromartie seemed to wake up when Revis got hurt.

I don't like Welker but you have to cut him some slack. He came back faster from the severe knee injury than anyone in history other than Rod Woodson. He will take a while to be 100%. That being said, he shies away from contact and doesn't really like playing against the real physical teams. The Jets know that and tried to get pretty physical with him early.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I don't like Welker but you have to cut him some slack. He came back faster from the severe knee injury than anyone in history other than Rod Woodson. He will take a while to be 100%. That being said, he shies away from contact and doesn't really like playing against the real physical teams. The Jets know that and tried to get pretty physical with him early.

Can't argue with any of this.