Second O'Neill horse tests positive

[slotdirt]

Oh, believe you, me, it doesn't effect how I play a race in slightest. It just seems to me that every major trainer out there has had some sort of reprimand in their careers, even guys like Mott. I was literally trying to think of some very high profile trainers who've never been fined and/or suspended for some sort of infraction of this sort.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Oh, believe you, me, it doesn't effect how I play a race in slightest. It just seems to me that every major trainer out there has had some sort of reprimand in their careers, even guys like Mott. I was literally trying to think of some very high profile trainers who've never been fined and/or suspended for some sort of infraction of this sort.

Yeah, but when you think of the amount of horses that some of these guys have and with them being spread out around the country isn't it possible to believe that sometimes accidents/mixups happen? Now, I'm not talking about cobra venom in a cabinet somewhere, but just general human error.

Like I said, maybe I'm just naive and don't want to believe the problem is a rampant as some people think. Or maybe, it's that deep down I have accepted it as being part of the game and at this point I really don't give it much of a second thought. Because even though it does affect me, there is nothing I can do about it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Yeah, but when you think of the amount of horses that some of these guys have and with them being spread out around the country isn't it possible to believe that sometimes accidents/mixups happen?

Sure. And I think the majority of everyday drug positives are just that.

But in this particular case we are talking repeated violations of TCO2 levels that are set high enough so that there is no way, naturally, for 99.7% of the horses in the population to obtain that level.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Sure. And I think the majority of everyday drug positives are just that.

But in this particular case we are talking repeated violations of TCO2 levels that are set high enough so that there is no way, naturally, for 99.7% of the horses in the population to obtain that level.

Very true. There is a better chane of hitting powerball three weeks in a row than getting 4 naturally occuring TCO2 positives.

On the same hand I also hate the fact that some guys are considered "clean" because they are seemingly nice guys or are pleasant with the press. The level of security in terms of horses being treated with illegal, performancing meds is a joke. There is almost no deterrent or detection happening. The amount of money spent in this area is about 5% of what it should be.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I also hate the fact that some guys are considered "clean" because they are seemingly nice guys or are pleasant with the press.

I think we can pretty much all agree Stevens was fairly clean.