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Old 09-07-2010, 11:17 AM
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My opinion of him is this.... From day 1 they wanted to go long with him. Repole was on Capital Otb Monday, I believe him. Everything he is doing now is on raw talent. Its likely one more race then BC. When he comes back sometime in Jan-Feb thats when I think we see the new horse. I could be wrong, but I just think there is a world of talent bottled up in this guy.
Let me get this straight: they want to go longer with him but he's still 'fast' enough to be the pacesetter yesterday, and his maiden win. Of course, he didn't really run that fast the 1st split yesterday and the winner was wider and won in hand (real easy). So, it's not like cutting the pace really worked against him. Now, how exactly is going longer supposed to improve this horse?

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once they get him down to GP, he can wire going longer.
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:03 PM
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I don't see how Lezcano is incompetent. The guy had a tough meet on the win end. You don't win at an 18% clip at the premier winter meet, against the very same jocks, by being incompetent.
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:08 PM
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I don't see how Lezcano is incompetent. The guy had a tough meet on the win end. You don't win at an 18% clip at the premier winter meet, against the very same jocks, by being incompetent.
I agree. He is a fine young rider that just had a bad meet.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:39 PM
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We really need to put the notion that Lezcano is a competent jock to rest, once and for all.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:40 PM
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I can name 15 other riders who get Fly Down to switch leads and get up to win the Travers.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:45 PM
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Not that I disagree, but please name all 15. I can name 10 that are simply better then him, maybe even 15.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:46 PM
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I can name 15 other riders who get Fly Down to switch leads and get up to win the Travers.
Lezcano will be riding at Lone Star within two years.
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:47 PM
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Lezcano will be riding at Lone Star within two years.

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Old 09-07-2010, 03:02 PM
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I could see him riding the FL circuit full time.
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Old 09-07-2010, 03:05 PM
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I could see him riding the FL circuit full time.
He could be a Calder legend.
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He could be a Calder legend.
Coach was talkin about Finger lakes..................
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Coach was talkin about Finger lakes..................
He would do OK there also.
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Old 09-07-2010, 05:51 PM
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I can name 15 other riders who get Fly Down to switch leads and get up to win the Travers.
When 3 yo's in 1 1/4 Grade 1 races don't switch leads I would tend to think that the jockey probably isn't the issue.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:04 PM
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When 3 yo's in 1 1/4 Grade 1 races don't switch leads I would tend to think that the jockey probably isn't the issue.
When you get beat a nose it is.
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When you get beat a nose it is.
Why do you think the horses didn't switch?
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:11 PM
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Not that I disagree, but please name all 15. I can name 10 that are simply better then him, maybe even 15.
JV
Ramon
Lep
Gomez
Sleepy
Prado
Cornelio
S. Bridgmohan
Rosario
Bejarano
Pval
V. Espinoza
Martin Garcia
David Flores
Albarado

plenty more too but thats 15.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:12 PM
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Why do you think the horses didn't switch?
He didnt even try to make him switch buddy.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:16 PM
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When 3 yo's in 1 1/4 Grade 1 races don't switch leads I would tend to think that the jockey probably isn't the issue.
You'd probably be right if this were the occasional thing with Lezcano. But if you watch his rides up at SAR you find a common theme: can't keep horses on righty lead in the stretch.

His masterpiece was on Stevil, the other day. I counted at least FIVE lead changes in the lane.

In other words, Lezcano SUCKS when it comes to handling horses -- in general and especially under pressure.
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He didnt even try to make him switch buddy.
There are two primary reasons why a horse wont switch leads. One is they are green and can become distracted. The other is physical. Perhaps the horse didn't switch because he was already on his more comfortable lead? Horses running in the Travers shouldn't need the jockey to "ask" him to change leads. And how do you know he didn't "ask" him? Did you see him fail to hit the change leads button?
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JV
Ramon
Lep
Gomez
Sleepy
Prado
Cornelio
S. Bridgmohan
Rosario
Bejarano
Pval
V. Espinoza
Martin Garcia
David Flores
Albarado

plenty more too but thats 15.

Who is sleepy?
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