9/4 (SAR): Forego H. (G1), Woodward H. (G1)

[hockey2315]

Bribon and Here Comes Ben at this point. . .

[CSC]

I'm certainly not convinced in Quality Road at 1-5 here, his last race where he had a very soft pace to work with was pretty inexcusable, Convocation grinded out a workmanlike win in his last going 3 wide most of the way, he can run better off of that prep. Convocation looks a good value bet to me in this spot, if Arcodoro sets a honest pace.

[hockey2315]

Convocation won't win.

[CSC]

Why can't he? Quality Road is obviously no worse than a 2nd place finish in here, but he has enough cracks in his armour at Saratoga to not be a iron clad lock.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by CSC

Why can't he? Quality Road is obviously no worse than a 2nd place finish in here, but he has enough cracks in his armour at Saratoga to not be a iron clad lock.

Is it really cracks or was it more of Johnny V letting him loaf in the lane and get nipped at the wire? I think they learned a hard lesson last time and it won't happen again.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Is it really cracks or was it more of Johnny V letting him loaf in the lane and get nipped at the wire? I think they learned a hard lesson last time and it won't happen again.

Maybe, I understand not taking on a big favorite for the sake of taking on a favorite, however if I were singling him I would not be comfortable with the Pletcher rush back, considering how sporadic QR has run in his career. Pletch usually likes to space his races out. I wonder had he won the Whitney, would he even be in here, nevertheless this isn't GP or Belmont, it's a good opportunity in my opinion. Jerkins/Pletch exacta. How ironic would this be?

[Alan07]

How are these handicaps?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Is it really cracks or was it more of Johnny V letting him loaf in the lane and get nipped at the wire? I think they learned a hard lesson last time and it won't happen again.

That 111 beyer and a nose second still kills these. Who is jumping up running a 110 or higher?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

That 111 beyer and a nose second still kills these. Who is jumping up running a 110 or higher?

Obviously QR can win, but that would lead to virtually no discussion on this thread. When he showed up in the entries for this race, I'm sure alot of race fans were shocked given his history of light racing. If you would have asked me last month where he was headed next, I would have said 1-9 they would have pointed for the JCGC. I don't like this pattern, I guess we will just have to wait and see if anyone can jump up and give him a race.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Convocation won't win.

CAN'T