9/1 (SAR): $443k C/O ~ Contest/Discussion

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Why wouldn't you play it then? If you have two very strong opinions (possible singles), it basically brings you down to a pick 4 ticket. I saw you take a wild stab at the pick 6 the other day on what seemed like a whim and now you love 2 horses in the sequance and might not play it? Not to mention the double carryover, it just seems it would be a given that you played it (unless there was a scratch of one of your singles).

Ill be up there making wild and crazy insane bets all day... Ill likely not play because of the 5th the wide open NYB MSW and the last, I see 3 races that are total spreads. Even if I took a stab and singled my horses at 4-1 and 12-1 ML I would have to go like 5 deep in those other races to feel good, and like I said I like the Dutrow a little in the stakes.

[atolunch]

Didn't Lloyd run against Arrr Pirates Booty his first time out?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Ill be up there making wild and crazy insane bets all day... Ill likely not play because of the 5th the wide open NYB MSW and the last, I see 3 races that are total spreads. Even if I took a stab and singled my horses at 4-1 and 12-1 ML I would have to go like 5 deep in those other races to feel good, and like I said I like the Dutrow a little in the stakes.

Will be way overplayed, only your boy TPletch can win that race

[ateamstupid]

I actually agree with him about Fancy Point.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I actually agree with him about Fancy Point.

IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.

Dos Lunas ran at Monmouth on Sunday. Since R. Dutrow is not her trainer, I'd have to think she'll be a scratch.

[hockey2315]

Pleine Forme looks very good considering the pedigree and relevant trainer angles, but the Pletcher looks sneaky. How often do you see him claim? The answer? Twice in the last 5 years. One of them was second by a neck going long on the turf at 10-1.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Dominguez gets off Arch Support to ride Pleine Forme. The race is wide open though. I don't know how one can eliminate Dos Lunas and Believe in A. P.

He got off Arch Support because it wasn't a good race, which is why Believe in AP is a toss IMO because she is gonna get bet becausce Dicky Dutrow will tell everyone he loves her, like he did the last time she ran.

Dos Lunas ran a couple days ago at Monmouth, highly unlikely she is running again

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

He got off Arch Support because it wasn't a good race, which is why Believe in AP is a toss IMO because she is gonna get bet becausce Dicky Dutrow will tell everyone he loves her, like he did the last time she ran.

Dos Lunas ran a couple days ago at Monmouth, highly unlikely she is running again

It's not exactly easy to win an 8.5 furlong turf race off of only a 5 furlong dirt race in which you did no running. I think Believe in A. P. is much more likely to move forward than Arch Support.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

[quote=Scav;690400]He got off Arch Support because it wasn't a good race, which is why Believe in AP is a toss IMO because she is gonna get bet becausce Dicky Dutrow will tell everyone he loves her, like he did the last time she ran.


that was very close to a one suit comment..dont make me unfriend you on facebook..

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Scav

IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

I like Motion's horse as well and agree that the 6 is going to be tough. I also think Fancy Point has a big shot and would probably use all three.

The sequence as a whole is very challenging because of the number of bad/questionable horses that are going to be used heavily (Sly, Stream of Gold, Run to Grand Ave, Arrr Pirates Booty) that you probably can't trust.

NT

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Scav

IMO, 6 is probably the most likely winner, and I think Motion's horse on the rail can run a bang up race

i concur.... don't like that pletcher is putting cohen back up though.

if we're shooting for a maiden in this race, the #9 Believe in A.P. looks pretty live closing into the #8 Arch Support crawl of a pace last out and only losing by 1/2 a length

-bt-

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i concur.... don't like that pletcher is putting cohen back up though.

Cohen's a pretty crappy turf jock, but Pletcher doesn't often take winning jocks off his horses.

[the_fat_man]

No love for Believe in A. P.?

The anchor man off; 3 turf works since the last race; and wins with stronger handling last out.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

No love for Believe in A. P.?

The anchor man off; 3 turf works since the last race; and wins with stronger handling last out.

Who's the anchor man? Leparoux rode him last out.

[NTamm1215]

It's worth noting too that this race is scheduled for the inner turf, which is very surprising to me. The chances that someone gets obliterated on the first turn are very high.

NT

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Who's the anchor man? Leparoux rode him last out.

My bad. Lezcano rode him 1st time out. When I saw the horse unable to stay on righty lead in the stretch, I just assumed that Jose was on him -- as this is his trademark (among other shortcomings).