Yo Yo Yo

Originally Posted by Gander

English was also good but had a phony pace setup and while I think he clinched an Eclipse award, I don't think he can contend on Cup Day.

Mike- Please help me understand how this clinched an eclipse for EC. What about Cacique? What if he wins the BC Turf. That would be his 3rd grade 1 win of the year, equalling EC's 3 grade 1 wins and is the most important turf race. Clearly that race on Saturday was the weakest running of that race in quite some time. I wasnt impressed at all.

3 grade one wins Tim, and they tend to vote for the routers over the milers if given any choice.

And I'm also conceding the BC to the Euros.
I should have stated that its my opinion that things will play out from here and he will end up with the award. he hasn't clinched anything yet, its just my opinion that things will play out that way in the end.

[zippyneedsawin]

I don't know. If Cacique wins the BC Turf, I think he gets the nod... and.. aren't his two G1 wins this year a little farther than 8 furlongs??

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I don't know. If Cacique wins the BC Turf, I think he gets the nod... and.. aren't his two G1 wins this year a little farther than 8 furlongs??

I think its obvious that if either the Tin man, EC, or cacique win the BC Turf, that its a done deal.
But I'm really thinking a Euro beats them. CD is a very kind place for Euros to run, especially the climate.

[GPK]

The 11th Commandment

Thou shalt talk of no other horse except English Channel when debating eclipse awards for turf

Originally Posted by GPK

The 11th Commandment

Thou shalt talk of no other horse except English Channel when debating eclipse awards for turf

Shh, Kev! He called my girl "bridesmaid for life" and someone followed it up with "follower not a leader"! Take the lukewarm reception to EC and run with it... im still licking my wounds... anyone else want to join in?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Balletto

Shh, Kev! He called my girl "bridesmaid for life" and someone followed it up with "follower not a leader"! Take the lukewarm reception to EC and run with it... im still licking my wounds... anyone else want to join in?

I just can't imagine anyone would say that about Balletto

Originally Posted by Balletto

Shh, Kev! He called my girl "bridesmaid for life" and someone followed it up with "follower not a leader"! Take the lukewarm reception to EC and run with it... im still licking my wounds... anyone else want to join in?

Oh so easy...nah can't do it.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Oh so easy...nah can't do it.

Please! Like "no" was even an option!

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I think its obvious that if either the Tin man, EC, or cacique win the BC Turf, that its a done deal.
But I'm really thinking a Euro beats them. CD is a very kind place for Euros to run, especially the climate.

Good point... I'm thinking that's the most likely scenario... a Euro win in the BC leaving EC the best choice for the Eclipse.

[Gander]

True. If a euro does win the BC Turf, then EC Channel wins the Eclipse with the 3 grade 1 wins. But if Cacique or Tin Man wins the BC Turf, they get the Eclipse. That would give Tin Man 2 grade 1's and those 2 are by far the 2 most important and best fields- Arlington Million and BC Turf.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I think its obvious that if either the Tin man, EC, or cacique win the BC Turf, that its a done deal.
But I'm really thinking a Euro beats them. CD is a very kind place for Euros to run, especially the climate.

Well I am not so sure about this. In 2000 War Chat and Perfect Sting won. Kalanisi won the Turf. In 1998 Bucks Boy won the Turf Classic, Da Hoss won the Mile. They didnt have the Filly and Mare Turf in 1998. So in the last two BC runnings at Churchill only 1 European won a turf race.