8/21 (AP): International Festival of Racing

NTamm1215 · #1 08-20-2010, 12:52 AM

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The more I look the more Paddy just looks like a single.

I'm starting to really like Gypsy's Warning in the Bev D.

I think Debussy is the Euro you want in the Million, but I'll use all three trying to beat Gio, even though I'm a fan.

I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

NT

RockHardTen1985 · #2 08-20-2010, 12:59 AM

Goodnight Nickey, Thomas and Brian.

hockey2315 · #3 08-20-2010, 06:14 AM

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I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

NT

I think it's pretty futile trying to determine which Euros like what type of ground. . . I also don't think he's off form at all. I give him mild excuses for his last two and neither was a terrible try. He'll save ground sitting right behind Tazeez and the 5 and I'd rather have him than a six-year-old gelding. I'm still using all three, though.

CSC · #4 08-20-2010, 08:00 AM

Interesting that Gerald Butler 'the trainer' not actor, onced worked for D Wayne Lukas. Pathattack has a good draw and has all the looks of a dangerous Euro, I'll use both her and Summit Surge in the Million and Bev D.

CSC · #5 08-20-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

NT

Summit Surge needs fast ground, he doesn't like cut in the ground, with 60% chance of precipitation for Sat, hopefully for him if it does rain it will be during the day of the race. There is a big difference from a course that is soaked with rain overnight and a firm course that is exposed to rain during the day of the races, a yielding course can still produce fast times, this is how I judge if a course is truly soft.

brianwspencer · #6 08-20-2010, 03:27 PM

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I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

NT

That's completely how I felt looking at the race on paper, but after seeing the pair of them together in the morning the last two days, I'm not quite as sure as I was before. On paper, I don't see how Debussy gets the job done, but oh my, this guy in the mornings....

One word that describes Debussy since settling into Arlington? Swagger.

South Beach Luv · #7 08-20-2010, 03:40 PM

In for the Aaron Vercruysse long shots tonight on HRTV, they preview the races at 7:30 CST

jwkniska · #8 08-21-2010, 07:59 AM

got a little rain overnight, but with rain having moved out for the most part... track will be good, drying out to firm turf as soon as the sun comes out.

PatCummings · #9 08-21-2010, 09:25 AM

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That's completely how I felt looking at the race on paper, but after seeing the pair of them together in the morning the last two days, I'm not quite as sure as I was before. On paper, I don't see how Debussy gets the job done, but oh my, this guy in the mornings....

One word that describes Debussy since settling into Arlington? Swagger.

I've been sucked in by morning work looks before, but totally agree with NTamm. Very few non-accomplished foreign shippers run their career best race in the Arlington Million.

Summit Surge just ran the best race of his career...will he double up? Debussy does not class up to these and was still beaten by Summit Surge last time. Tazeez fits most - his third in the Prince of Wales's was a monster effort in a great race and he gets back to ten furlongs. He'll be the only Euro on my tickets in the race.

CSC · #10 08-21-2010, 01:22 PM

1st race in 1:02.04 on yielding-good turf. Not much cut in the ground.

PatCummings · #11 08-21-2010, 06:24 PM

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I've been sucked in by morning work looks before, but totally agree with NTamm. Very few non-accomplished foreign shippers run their career best race in the Arlington Million.

Summit Surge just ran the best race of his career...will he double up? Debussy does not class up to these and was still beaten by Summit Surge last time. Tazeez fits most - his third in the Prince of Wales's was a monster effort in a great race and he gets back to ten furlongs. He'll be the only Euro on my tickets in the race.

And I'm not betting for...oh, at least two weeks

the_fat_man · #12 08-21-2010, 06:25 PM

Incredibly INEXCUSABLE ride by Dominguez. Tons the best and gets the horse beat. Guess he's only good at the save ground-last move ride on claimers.

eajinabi · #13 08-21-2010, 06:37 PM

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Incredibly INEXCUSABLE ride by Dominguez. Tons the best and gets the horse beat. Guess he's only good at the save ground-last move ride on claimers.

I have been saying that for a while. When real money is on the line he doesnt deliver. However most people on this board thinks he is the greatest turf rider in the last 30 yrs

tiggerv · #14 08-21-2010, 06:41 PM

Hard to ask for a better trip from Tazeez and he still couldn't get it done.

Need Perfect Shirl tonight to make it up.

The Indomitable DrugS · #15 08-21-2010, 10:14 PM

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I have been saying that for a while. When real money is on the line he doesnt deliver. However most people on this board thinks he is the greatest turf rider in the last 30 yrs

I don't know about 30 - but he's unquestionably the best turf rider since Bailey retired - and for my money he's better than Bailey ever was in turf races.

horseofcourse · #16 08-21-2010, 06:58 PM

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Incredibly INEXCUSABLE ride by Dominguez. Tons the best and gets the horse beat. Guess he's only good at the save ground-last move ride on claimers.

Just a question...did you actually watch the race?? On what planet is Gio Ponti tons better than Debussy today considering the winners issues?

jwkniska · #17 08-21-2010, 09:50 PM

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One word that describes Debussy since settling into Arlington? Swagger.

Brian, great call!

brianwspencer · #18 08-21-2010, 10:03 PM

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Brian, great call!

Thanks, JW -- wasn't sold on paper, but couldn't count him out after the AM works.

NTamm1215 · #19 08-21-2010, 07:08 PM

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I don't see Debussy at all.

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That's the approach I'm taking with Eclair de Lune and really have no idea why everyone is on her so much.

These pretty much sum up my day.

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I think Debussy is the Euro you want in the Million, but I'll use all three trying to beat Gio, even though I'm a fan.

Good call!

NT

hockey2315 · #20 08-21-2010, 07:33 PM

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These pretty much sum up my day.

Good call!

NT

Thanks. . . Had the win, but Eclaire de Lune killed me too. So did the Lemon Drop Kid not getting up in the GIII.