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Old 08-18-2010, 08:43 PM
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How have you been capitalizing, DrugS? I've been trying to find the horse who I think will get the lead and just betting that one to win for the most part. I'm up, but the lack of a good wagering menu is killing me.
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:19 PM
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How have you been capitalizing, DrugS? I've been trying to find the horse who I think will get the lead and just betting that one to win for the most part. I'm up, but the lack of a good wagering menu is killing me.
You'll die when you see the good liquidity Betfair has on many of these races. I don't think I've ever seen a track where as many short priced horses can be tossed without caution due to projected wide trips and an almost hopeless chance of getting inside.

I'm obviously doing well because of the track - both in the paper and through betting. But I never end up catching these insane mega longshots like the one who won the last race.

* Last time out - the horse breaks from post 11 in an 11 horse field

* Two starts back - it breaks from post 9 in a 9 horse field

* Three starts back - it breaks from post 5 in a 6 horse field going 2 turns

So ... in it's last 3 races ... it's been drawn inside of a grand total of one horse .. and now it gets post 2 and it's 34/1 against dogsh!t.

The problem is that I can't bring myself to even stab at those kind of horses when they suck bulls - and this one didn't even have any speed and was cutting back to 5fs.

The jockey on the 5 horse got loose - but like a typical 8-for-233 jockey would - he kept the horse well off the rail the whole way while setting the pace. I have a good idea which jockeys are idiots and which ones aren't .. but sometimes you hope and they always fail you.
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:59 PM
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The head on is up. Here's how brilliant this ride was.

Here's the pan:



The 5 is loose on the lead in a 5 furlong sprint - basically a sure sign of victory if you're on the rail .. the 2 is in the white cap in second place saving ground.


Here's the head-on:



He's out in the four path like an imbecile. You could drive a semi inside of him.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:01 PM
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It seems like Ms Moscow (10/1 ML) might be live in the 6th tomorrow at 8.5f.
Decent speed, favorable post, non-terrible jock, and although the one AW start wasn't overly impressive it came in her debut last year against the bias going 8f at PID. Throw in the fact that the probable favorites are either parked way outside or are trying poly for the first time, and she might be worth a play. I might play WP and box her with the rail horse if the price is right.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:05 PM
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Did you notice that the #4 & #6 won every race but two today?? The other two were won by the #2 horse.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:21 PM
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Did you notice that the #4 & #6 won every race but two today?? The other two were won by the #2 horse.
Two of the "#4 horses" that won started from post 3. The #6 horse that won the first race started from post 4 and the #4 horse who almost went wire-to-wire at 9/1 started from post 2.

The saddle #'s have little to do with anything because of entries and scratches and such.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:31 PM
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Two of the "#4 horses" that won started from post 3. The #6 horse that won the first race started from post 4 and the #4 horse who almost went wire-to-wire at 9/1 started from post 2.

The saddle #'s have little to do with anything because of entries and scratches and such.
I follow.. I just thought it was a bit odd when looking at the days results.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:34 PM
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It seems like Ms Moscow (10/1 ML) might be live in the 6th tomorrow at 8.5f.
Decent speed, favorable post, non-terrible jock, and although the one AW start wasn't overly impressive it came in her debut last year against the bias going 8f at PID. Throw in the fact that the probable favorites are either parked way outside or are trying poly for the first time, and she might be worth a play. I might play WP and box her with the rail horse if the price is right.
That's a tricky race.

I wish I knew who might get an easy lead in the first tomorrow. There's no speed at all in that race ... and if something gets loose - they are a near cinch to either win at a price or run 2nd to Musical Mix.

If Musical Mix doesn't win the first race tomorrow - she'll never win a race. She's been victimized by draws repeatedly - and she finally gets one to go her way.
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:57 PM
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That's a tricky race.

I wish I knew who might get an easy lead in the first tomorrow. There's no speed at all in that race ... and if something gets loose - they are a near cinch to either win at a price or run 2nd to Musical Mix.

If Musical Mix doesn't win the first race tomorrow - she'll never win a race. She's been victimized by draws repeatedly - and she finally gets one to go her way.
Another winner!

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Old 08-20-2010, 07:23 PM
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Presque Isle Downs update so far tonight:

Race 1: Wire-to-wire winner pays $17.40

Race 2: Wire-to-wire winner pays $20.20

Race 3: Wire-to-wire winner (breaking from Post #2) pays $72.60 to win and wins by 6.5 lengths.

Race 4: Wire-to-wire winner pays $4.60


Yeah, inside-speed was off to a good start.
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:54 PM
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Presque Isle Downs update so far tonight:

Race 1: Wire-to-wire winner pays $17.40

Race 2: Wire-to-wire winner pays $20.20

Race 3: Wire-to-wire winner (breaking from Post #2) pays $72.60 to win and wins by 6.5 lengths.

Race 4: Wire-to-wire winner pays $4.60


Yeah, inside-speed was off to a good start.

The winner of the 6th race just went wire-to-wire and won easily despite lugging sharply into the rail in the stretch.

Paid $19.40 to win.

I had the trifecta in this race picked cold in the paper - it paid $240.40 and the winner was listed as my best play of the day. Yay me.
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:36 PM
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Another winner!

Paul
Thanks.

A Mike Maker trainer horse off of a 3 wide off-the-pace trip paid $45 to win the 9th at Saratoga yesterday - a turf sprint.

From that same race - Goldzar had a 3 wide trip pressing the pace and he came back and won his next start by over 3 lengths at 6/1 odds.

Amazingly, that race was won by a rally wide horse named Rockin Rockstar who won the 100K Tom Ridge Stakes earlier in the meet at PID in his only other start.

I was telling a few guys this morning that Rockin Rockstar should be voted horse of the meet regardless of what happens in the Masters ... all I got was either "They have a vote for horse of the meet here?" or "who's Rockin Rockstar? ... is that the horse ...."
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