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Old 08-17-2010, 06:30 AM
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bottom line jets are a top 4 if not top 3 team in the league, saying the pats and bmore rank higher is just to strike up an arguement. The team did nothing but improve in the off season, and were a game away from the championship with a rookie qb?

as for randy, if he don't get it this year i don't like his chances at getting it at all (at least not with the pats), people don't realize how many coaches and weapons they are without since the super bowl wins years ago.

boldin to bmore, sure its a good pick up, put they're still gonna be a ground and pound team. It gives them a legit threat deep, but who else are db's gonna focus on in that offense that play wr... stallworth? mason, king of the 10 yard out? he'll get doubled up by the saftey and get all the attention.

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Old 08-17-2010, 06:42 AM
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bottom line jets are a top 4 if not top 3 team in the league, saying the pats and bmore rank higher is just to strike up an arguement.
The Patriots are still a slight favorite to win the AFC East this year...

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Old 08-17-2010, 07:33 AM
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The Patriots are still a slight favorite to win the AFC East this year...
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but they have higher odds to win the super bowl then the jets... go figure (can't get updated super bowl odds here at work). i assume it just means the jets schedule is tougher...saints, colts, jets is my top 3

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.fc34c32.html

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Old 08-17-2010, 08:18 AM
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but they have higher odds to win the super bowl then the jets... go figure (can't get updated super bowl odds here at work). i assume it just means the jets schedule is tougher...saints, colts, jets is my top 3

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.fc34c32.html
The Pats play a 1st place schedule and the Jets play a 2nd place schedule .. so you can be sure that has nothing to do with it.

The Pats are a shorter price than the Jets to win the AFC as well - but the Jets are shorter to win the Super Bowl.

I think the Jets have more fans and they've probably taken a lot of extra sucker money to win the Super Bowl...those type of people don't bet on divisional championship props and conference championship props.

If you started polling casual football bettors about which team is more likely to win the AFC East right now ... 8 out of 10 will probably tell you the Jets are more likely than the Patriots ... and they will base it off of what happened in last years playoffs.

Prior year playoff results are a pretty piss poor indication of what will happen the next year. The Super Bowl winner has only repeated once in the last 11 tries - and the team who loses the Super Bowl has failed to even make the Super Bowl the following year every year since the mid 1990's.

The season is a long grind and injuries and players playing through pain will basically wear teams down at the end. It's survival of the fittest come playoff time.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:27 AM
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The Pats play a 1st place schedule and the Jets play a 2nd place schedule .. so you can be sure that has nothing to do with it.

The Pats are a shorter price than the Jets to win the AFC as well - but the Jets are shorter to win the Super Bowl.

I think the Jets have more fans and they've probably taken a lot of extra sucker money to win the Super Bowl...those type of people don't bet on divisional championship props and conference championship props.

If you started polling casual football fans about which team is more likely to win the AFC East right now ... 8 out of 10 will probably tell you the Jets are more likely than the Patriots ... and they will base it off of what happened in last years playoffs.

Prior year playoff results are a pretty piss poor indication of what will happen the next year. The Super Bowl winner has only repeated once in the last 11 tries - and the team who loses the Super Bowl has failed to even make the Super Bowl the following year every year since the mid 1990's.

The season is a long grind and injuries and players playing through pain will basically wear teams down at the end. It's survival of the fittest come playoff time.
more gambling fans maybe... but sawx c's and pats nation is about as strong and awful as it gets.
i wouldn't say the jets were a sucker bet, if anything i think they're getting a lot of smart money which is waying them down.

serious question, who's the #1 rb in NE this year?

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Old 08-17-2010, 08:35 AM
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serious question, who's the #1 rb in NE this year?
I'm the absolute wrong guy to ask. I think it's probably either going to BenJarvis Green-Ellis, Fred Taylor, or Phony Maroney.

BJGE was the first team rb in the preseason game - so maybe him.


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more gambling fans maybe... but sawx c's and pats nation is about as strong and awful as it gets.
i wouldn't say the jets were a sucker bet, if anything i think they're getting a lot of smart money which is waying them down.
The Pats fans are VERY pessimistic about this team ... at least from what I'm reading in the comment boxes at the end of the Moss stories I read from the NE papers.

I think if you restricted the betting to only Pats fans - the Jets would be a strong favorite to win the AFC East with the Pats and Dolphins co-second choices.
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The season is a long grind and injuries and players playing through pain will basically wear teams down at the end. It's survival of the fittest come playoff time.
Oh, you mean like what happened to the Pats last year according to you and Mike Reiss over here? And tell me why that's not going to happen again this year with a worse offensive line and an even older team? The Gaytriots can win 10 games, but their SB contending days are gone buddy.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:39 AM
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Oh, you mean like what happened to the Pats last year according to you and Mike Reiss over here? And tell me why that's not going to happen again this year with a worse offensive line and an even older team? The Gaytriots can win 10 games, but their SB contending days are gone buddy.
It won't happen because Moss is in sharp form now in a contract year - and Brady will get hit less because of the stellar addition of that new blocking tight end that I liked from the pre season game.
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Does Baltimore have a defense this year?
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