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Old 08-16-2010, 01:17 PM
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How much should he have been fined? It is hardly a big offense especially considering the person in question has probably held hundreds of licenses in the past.
I'm going to use this excuse!

But Officer, I've gone 65 mph hundereds of times in the past. <--- green puppy dog eyes
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:20 PM
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I'm going to use this excuse!

But Officer, I've gone 65 mph hundereds of times in the past. <--- green puppy dog eyes
That's why they fined him!

Had it been Scav on the horse instead of a hall of fame jockey, the fine would probably be much higher and you would have no need at all for an autopsy.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:31 PM
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That's why they fined him!

Had it been Scav on the horse instead of a hall of fame jockey, the fine would probably be much higher and you would have no need at all for an autopsy.
Pretty good walk from Pletchers barn to main track. Had it been Scavs I don't think the horse would have made it that far.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:29 PM
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I'm going to use this excuse!

But Officer, I've gone 65 mph hundereds of times in the past. <--- green puppy dog eyes
Uh you broke the law. Pletcher was just trying to help a friend get fit to ride in a stupid race.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:34 PM
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Uh you broke the law. Pletcher was just trying to help a friend get fit to ride in a stupid race.
Uh Pletcher broke a rule.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:44 PM
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Uh Pletcher broke a rule.
Seriously how petty can you guys get? He doesn't actually employ Stevens! And he was fined for the incident. Do you think he is the only trainer fined for this particular offense? The fine is a standard amount. Should he pay a higher fine than another trainer because he wins more races? I don't understand how any logical person could have an issue with this fine.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:45 PM
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Seriously how petty can you guys get? He doesn't actually employ Stevens! And he was fined for the incident. Do you think he is the only trainer fined for this particular offense? The fine is a standard amount. Should he pay a higher fine than another trainer because he wins more races? I don't understand how any logical person could have an issue with this fine.
Means testing. For him, a few grand. Put it towards VLTs
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:48 PM
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OK here's the last part of the article i left out, But I quess I should have included it


"The standard fine for an unlicensed exercise rider is $100, but the stewards doubled the fine because they felt that a trainer of Pletcher's experience should have known better," Joe Mahoney of the NY State Racing and Wagering Board said. "The board will review the entire incident and is keeping its options open."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/horse...#ixzz0wnQRGOAw
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:51 PM
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OK here's the last part of the article i left out, But I quess I should have included it


"The standard fine for an unlicensed exercise rider is $100, but the stewards doubled the fine because they felt that a trainer of Pletcher's experience should have known better," Joe Mahoney of the NY State Racing and Wagering Board said. "The board will review the entire incident and is keeping its options open."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/horse...#ixzz0wnQRGOAw
LOL he got double the normal amount but it still isnt enough for the rule of law crowd!
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Means testing. For him, a few grand. Put it towards VLTs
Because you dont like him? Or because Gary Stevens is going to miss the exciting "legends" challenge and you like his mount?
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Because you dont like him? Or because Gary Stevens is going to miss the exciting "legends" challenge and you like his mount?
both. Up to 4 grand now.
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Seriously how petty can you guys get? He doesn't actually employ Stevens! And he was fined for the incident. Do you think he is the only trainer fined for this particular offense? The fine is a standard amount. Should he pay a higher fine than another trainer because he wins more races? I don't understand how any logical person could have an issue with this fine.
Honestly, I have no issues with the amount of the fine, I just giggled that you of all people thought someone shouldn't be held to the same standard because of who they are.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:56 PM
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Honestly, I have no issues with the amount of the fine, I just giggled that you of all people thought someone shouldn't be held to the same standard because of who they are.
If Gary Stevens came to my barn in the same situation I would have to say that I would probably not think to ask to see his license. Stevens is an employee in the loosest definition. The rule is in place so that people dont hire undocumented workers or people with criminal pasts, not to prevent Hall of fame jockeys from getting their legs underneath them. The fact that they are going to spend more time on the "investigation" tells you all you need to know anout the NYS racing board and the joke that it is. I guess they still havent concluded the Chad Brown thermometer incident so the Pletcher case gets pushed back.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:57 PM
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If Gary Stevens came to my barn in the same situation I would have to say that I would probably not think to ask to see his license. Stevens is an employee in the loosest definition. The rule is in place so that people dont hire undocumented workers or people with criminal pasts, not to prevent Hall of fame jockeys from getting their legs underneath them. The fact that they are going to spend more time on the "investigation" tells you all you need to know anout the NYS racing board and the joke that it is. I guess they still havent concluded the Chad Brown thermometer incident so the Pletcher case gets pushed back.
Did you see his acting in Seabiscuit? Criminal indeed.
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If Gary Stevens came to my barn in the same situation I would have to say that I would probably not think to ask to see his license. Stevens is an employee in the loosest definition. The rule is in place so that people dont hire undocumented workers or people with criminal pasts, not to prevent Hall of fame jockeys from getting their legs underneath them. The fact that they are going to spend more time on the "investigation" tells you all you need to know anout the NYS racing board and the joke that it is. I guess they still havent concluded the Chad Brown thermometer incident so the Pletcher case gets pushed back.
I guess Angel Cordero must have a license, given the number of times he works Pletcher's horses.
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