"A Roaring Start"----Handle?

NTamm1215 · #1 08-10-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Those are not the same first 12 days(see below)...To me, its not an apples to apples comparison but that's fine even if you look at it that way. It is down from last year, yes better than the -10% industry but a disappointment if you ask me....And just so people know 75% of my action since Toga opened is on Toga. Its still my favorite meet to be at and one of the best places in the world....It is not my favorite betting meet. That would be Belmont Fall. I say this simply b/c people think I am simply anti NYRA which is not true. But press releases like that are silly.

• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet was 271,800, down 3.2% from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)

I don't think you're reading it right. The numbers in comparison are for the first two FULL weeks of the 2010 meet (July 28-August 2, August 4-August 9) vs. the first two full weeks of 2009. If anything, the 2009 numbers should be significantly higher given that the opening day/weekend cards were not counted for 2010.

NT

randallscott35 · #2 08-10-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't think you're reading it right. The numbers in comparison are for the first two FULL weeks of the 2010 meet (July 28-August 2, August 4-August 9) vs. the first two full weeks of 2009. If anything, the 2009 numbers should be significantly higher given that the opening day/weekend cards were not counted for 2010.

NT

Actually the best comparison I think is the races run number and that is a percent or two behind last year.

NTamm1215 · #3 08-10-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Actually the best comparison I think is the races run number and that is a percent or two behind last year.

I agree, the difference in races run from year to year is 116 (2010) vs. 120 (2009). When you take that into consideration the result is exactly what NYRA advertised on its website, "Handle nearly even with races run through two full weeks at the Spa."

NT

randallscott35 · #4 08-10-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I agree, the difference in races run from year to year is 116 (2010) vs. 120 (2009). When you take that into consideration the result is exactly what NYRA advertised on its website, "Handle nearly even with races run through two full weeks at the Spa."

NT

Roaring indeed.

NTamm1215 · #5 08-10-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Roaring indeed.

That's your reply after mis-reading something and disregarding what's posted right on the NYRA website?

NT

randallscott35 · #6 08-10-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

That's your reply after mis-reading something and disregarding what's posted right on the NYRA website?

NT

I quoted the bloodhorse article. My first post says flat to slightly down. Nothing incorrect. Keep it up.

NTamm1215 · #7 08-10-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I quoted the bloodhorse article. My first post says flat to slightly down. Nothing incorrect. Keep it up.

What's so horrible about this quote?

"The 2010 meet is off to a roaring start with great performances and strong support from our on-track and simulcast customers."

So far, no track in America has received the wagering support in 2010 that Saratoga has. Del Mar had the most "popular" horse in the country run last week and still had lower attendance than Saratoga. So far, the best sprinter in the country has run at Saratoga, the best 3YO filly, the best 2YOs, the best older horses, some of the best 3YOs and the best turf females. Does a "roaring start" only pertain to handle vs. past comparisons?

NT

art vanderlay · #8 08-10-2010, 08:19 PM

I was there Saturday and Sunday, Big crowds both days but on Saturday I had to park on the Oklahoma track. First time in many visits i have ever seen that.
I really enjoyed driving my car on the track. I gained respect for the horses and jocks reaching speeds of 40 mph. It took an Hour after the races to get off the track because of traffic.

randallscott35 · #9 08-10-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by art vanderlay

I was there Saturday and Sunday, Big crowds both days but on Saturday I had to park on the Oklahoma track. First time in many visits i have ever seen that.
I really enjoyed driving my car on the track. I gained respect for the horses and jocks reaching speeds of 40 mph. It took an Hour after the races to get off the track because of traffic.

Gotta leave after the feature if you drive. Just bet the last and go.

art vanderlay · #10 08-10-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Gotta leave after the feature if you drive. Just bet the last and go.

Thanks for that sage advice but I love Saratoga and I am really not in a hurry to leave.

randallscott35 · #11 08-10-2010, 08:25 PM

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Thanks for that sage advice but I love Saratoga and I am really not in a hurry to leave.

I hear you but I could walk when I went all the time.

Antitrust32 · #12 08-11-2010, 10:21 AM

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Gotta leave after the feature if you drive. Just bet the last and go.

best way to do it is just stay for an hour to so after the last race, have a few beers and bet simulcast, or go to Siro's & then off for some dinner and more beers.

Sightseek · #13 08-11-2010, 11:49 AM

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best way to do it is just stay for an hour to so after the last race, have a few beers and bet simulcast, or go to Siro's & then off for some dinner and more beers.

They built a bar right beside the paddock (where the buffet tents were next to Clubhouse entrance) that stays open later than the rest of the track for simulcast. It's awesome!

Antitrust32 · #14 08-11-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

They built a bar right beside the paddock (where the buffet tents were next to Clubhouse entrance) that stays open later than the rest of the track for simulcast. It's awesome!

thats awesome. I'm really going through some major Saratoga withdraw's right now.

Travis Stone · #15 08-11-2010, 09:11 AM

Let's go through the list...

1. Can't rail NYRA for having good, bettable cards, because they have, despite giving away "less" money than other tracks.

2. Can't rail NYRA for weak stakes, because the stakes have been awesome, including the race of the year in the Whitney.

3. Can't rail NYRA for bizarro world stuff, because the meet has gone pretty well.

SO...

Let's get on them for language in a press release.

Perhaps randallscott can be Art Vandalay's latex salesman?