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08-10-2010, 02:15 PM
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Lets wait for Randall to comment on him, he is the Mineshaft pro. What do all these horses have in common? Quest, Evening Attire, Hold that Tiger, Puzzlement, Volponi, Dollar Bill, Western Pride, Judges Case, American Style Mettron, Strive, Bonapaw, Learned, Discreet Hero, Majestic Theif, Moon Ballard, Revised Note, Roar Of The Tiger 
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08-10-2010, 02:18 PM
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08-10-2010, 02:21 PM
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08-10-2010, 02:34 PM
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2/9/03 Fairgrounds... It was a Grade 3 that Balto Star actually won, Mineshaft finished second, less then a length ahead of Bonapaw. After that race is when he appears to have got really good, winning 6/7 and all 7 races he beyered 114 or higher.
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08-10-2010, 02:46 PM
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Candy Ride (obvious talent / very fast)
Curlin (Demonstrated great ability right off the bat with multiple terrific performances in an incredibly short period of time from his debut to the Preakness....unbelievable) Ghostzapper (obvious talent / very fast) Discreet Cat (obvious talent / very fast) Empire Maker (This horse always had the reputation of being a bit of a goof. He never seemed to really put it all together mentally, and had some injury problems, etc. He won three G1s and never finished out of the exacta on talent alone)
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08-10-2010, 02:47 PM
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The title of your thread got me thinking. I believe Raw Talent was the name of the autobiography of 80's adult film star, Jerry Butler. A humorous read, if I recall correctly.
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08-10-2010, 05:30 PM
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Kickin n Screamin-bad trainer
Hank-Don't mess with him Lloydobler- Able to place many times with a slimmed down Sciacca galloping him Joe the Dude-you don't know yet Angry Dragon-Shiek Kauffman calls the shots
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08-10-2010, 08:53 PM
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I know Midnight Lute gets many a mention on this thread, but I'm not sure he's fully being appreciated even so. If not for a breathing problem, he'd be more like Ghostzapper in terms of range of distance. Baffert originally figured him as a TC/BCC hopeful, but couldn't fix the air issues in time. Given how he stayed sprinting, I guess it was never fully resolved.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...aul&id=3120551 Baffert flat out says he was going to be his Derby horse. I believe it. I think you're talking a horse with the raw talent to be a world beater at any distance. I'd be excited to have one of his foals on the way, honestly. I've always felt Real Quiet was underrated, and it's a real shame ML had those problems. If he gets a TC hopeful, what do you wanna bet someone's gonna go 'well his sire was a champion sprinter so you can't expect him to go long.' Completely underestimates the potential of his progeny (provided he doesn't also pass on his own physical flaw).
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08-11-2010, 07:22 AM
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1.) Zenyatta
2.) Furthest Land 3.) Vale of York 4.) She Be Wild 5.) Man of Iron 6.) Dancing In Silks 7.) Joe Flacko - or whatever it was the '08 BC Classic winner was named 8.) Stardom Bound
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08-11-2010, 10:49 AM
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Nobody (including me) even going to make a case for Quality Road in terms of "raw talent". I guess everyone fell over themselves jumping off the bandwagon after he was beaten a neck last week by what is probably the best horse in America now. QR has been to post 11 times and set 4 stakes/track records at 6.5 and 9f in NY and Florida. Pure speed and ability can't be questioned.
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I know people dont really care about weight but he did give PD 8 pounds that day. It was one of the better losing efforts Ive seen. Discreet Cat was the freakiest horse Ive seen over the past decade..
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