Remember this effort?

RockHardTen1985 · #1 08-09-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

It was a total illusion, just look at the chart.

Please stop, you and Coach.

#2 08-09-2010, 11:20 AM

He'd still beat Zenyatta on dirt

RockHardTen1985 · #3 08-09-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

He'd still beat Zenyatta on dirt

He would have beat any horse we have saw the last 2 years in the JCGC that day....

#4 08-09-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He would have beat any horse we have saw the last 2 years in the JCGC that day....

I doubt that. He got a dream setup in his race.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 08-09-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I doubt that. He got a dream setup in his race.

Its a good debate....

#6 08-09-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its a good debate....

Not really.

RockHardTen1985 · #7 08-09-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Not really.

Ok now your pissing me off, Borrego was very good, not great. He totally FREAKED IN THIS RACE, he would have beat anyone you can name from the last 2 years on this day.

10 pnt move up · #8 08-09-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Please stop, you and Coach.

Please just do some real handicapping, get out a chart, and look at what happened with the interals of that race.......its obviously a good effort but the big move a total illusion.

RockHardTen1985 · #9 08-09-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Please just do some real handicapping, get out a chart, and look at what happened with the interals of that race.......its obviously a good effort but the big move a total illusion.

Dude I have saw the chart and your a ******... Pretty simple, Sun King was on the pace he did not stop, Suave did not move from last... The only 2 horses who stopped were Lava Man because he was a total POS bottom level claimer outside of Cali, and the Rabbit. There was no real collapse here, Borrego just CRUSHED THEM.

Athletics005 · #10 08-09-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dude I have saw the chart and your a ******... Pretty simple, Sun King was on the pace he did not stop, Suave did not move from last... The only 2 horses who stopped were Lava Man because he was a total POS bottom level claimer outside of Cali, and the Rabbit. There was no real collapse here, Borrego just CRUSHED THEM.

Remember that Borrego was 7 lengths further back than the penultimate horse (and that horse was 60-1), so he was really the only horse getting full advantage of the amazing setup. Regardless, it certainly was one of the most visually stunning moves in recent memory even if it was aided.

tiggerv · #11 08-09-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dude I have saw the chart and your a ******... Pretty simple, Sun King was on the pace he did not stop, Suave did not from last... The only 2 horses who stopped were Lava Man because he was a total POS bottom level claimer outside of Cali, and the Rabbit. There was no real collapse here, Borrego just CRUSHED THEM.

Have you actually watched the race? Lava Man misses the break, gets rushed up by PVal 3 wide to press a pace then went out in 46 and change. Velazquez had his idiot cap on and presses the rabbit part of his entry taking out Flower Alley. Espinoza makes a premature middle move to take out Imperialism. Grand Reward gets the patented Mike Smith 5 wide middle move.

Sun King only finished 3rd because Bejarano was smart enough to take back after the 1st quarter and drafts horses on the rail. He passes the dead horses in front of him for 3rd.

RockHardTen1985 · #12 08-09-2010, 12:07 PM

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Have you actually watched the race? Lava Man misses the break, gets rushed up by PVal 3 wide to press a pace then went out in 46 and change. Velazquez had his idiot cap on and presses the rabbit part of his entry taking out Flower Alley. Espinoza makes a premature middle move to take out Imperialism. Grand Reward gets the patented Mike Smith 5 wide middle move.

Sun King only finished 3rd because Bejarano was smart enough to take back after the 1st quarter and drafts horses on the rail. He passes the dead horses in front of him for 3rd.

Dude Lava Man could have broke on top, went 51 for the half and lost by 15, PLEASE STOP.

10 pnt move up · #13 08-09-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Dude I have saw the chart and your a ******... Pretty simple, Sun King was on the pace he did not stop, Suave did not move from last... The only 2 horses who stopped were Lava Man because he was a total POS bottom level claimer outside of Cali, and the Rabbit. There was no real collapse here, Borrego just CRUSHED THEM.

So you don't think the HUGE move that made Durkin cream his jeans might have been the collapse of some crazy early moves combined with a that 25 and change split to the mile? The crazy thing is he did not even have to throw a sub 24 split to make the move like another closer we all know does.

The race was nice, it looked pretty, but it was not anything special. This was backup up by how poorly he ran in his next race showing how counterfeit the "move" really was compared to what people think of the race.