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Old 08-05-2010, 01:44 PM
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Why did I pick First Dude to win the Preakness at 24/1 odds with Lookin at Lucky picked 2nd and Yawanna Twist picked 3rd?

This years Derby was a joke .. and it basically boiled down to finding a closer at a price. Ice Box was the logical one to take - but I had a serious problem taking him off of a very weak Fla Derby win by a head over Pleasant Prince. Make Music For Me had Rosario .. still, no thanks. Stately Victor was 30/1 on the line, and I had false hope that he was a good dirt on the basis of his 2nd place finish to Winslow Homer in his debut at Saratoga.
I'm not saying it was a bad pick, I did have a problem that he won at 42-1 or whatever it was for the Bluegrass and the broodmare Collect the Cash was more known as a turf horse, rather than a dirt one. BTW the totally mediocre Aaron Gryder rode her to atleast a couple of her bigger scores correct for Stronach? I know Maker gets great bang for the buck, it wouldn't have been a pick I would have made but why not in this derby. I just wanted to see your rationale since you are a stats orientated handicapper or it seems that way from your posts.
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:49 PM
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:53 PM
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The difference in Keenland and Delmar numbers really is astounding. Hard to find the winners, but some better payouts await those who do.
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:57 PM
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I just wanted to see your rationale since you are a stats orientated handicapper or it seems that way from your posts.
Stats are basically facts that happened and can't be refuted - which is why I use them on a board to support opinions and observations.

I don't even waste my time that often talking about trips .. because people aren't using the same tools as I am in order to - imo - properly watch a race.
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:59 PM
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Stats are basically facts that happened and can't be refuted - which is why I use them on a board to support opinions and observations.

I don't even waste my time that often talking about trips .. because people aren't using the same tools as I am in order to - imo - properly watch a race.
Fat Charts?
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:09 PM
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Fat Charts?
Basically just my completed raw pace and final figures for that day combined with a review of the pp's and the days result charts ... but yeah, ... I don't like to discuss them a lot because the way I watch races is influenced by those things.
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:07 PM
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Stats are basically facts that happened and can't be refuted - which is why I use them on a board to support opinions and observations.

I don't even waste my time that often talking about trips .. because people aren't using the same tools as I am in order to - imo - properly watch a race.
Hard to believe when every other word you write is 'BEYER'.
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Old 08-05-2010, 02:09 PM
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Very Clever TFF
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:50 PM
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Stats are basically facts that happened and can't be refuted - which is why I use them on a board to support opinions and observations.
DrugS, did you look at field size? I would bet that on Poly you have smaller fields along with less winning favorites; which would only serve to support your point that Poly is a totally different creature.
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