8/2 (SAR): Amsterdam S. (G2)

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Mineshaft baby highest figure. Cheers.

Probably the first legitimate chance he'll have at getting a GI winner as well.

NT

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Probably the first legitimate chance he'll have at getting a GI winner as well.

NT

Maybe. Be patient.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Maybe. Be patient.

How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?

He actually throws some real fast horses speaking in terms of Thorograph, but it seems like durability is an issue with them. You see two races then a 200 day layoff pretty regularly.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Scav

He actually throws some real fast horses speaking in terms of Thorograph, but it seems like durability is an issue with them. You see two races then a 200 day layoff pretty regularly.

Casino Drive for one. Him and Big Brown's health allowed the disgrace that is Da Tara to win the Belmont in a cakewalk.

[RockHardTen1985]

Sadly enough Casino Drive might be his best.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Redding Collery just beat Awesome Gem by like 7 last out and it was 7 lengths more to 3rd.

He and Discreetly Mine are at least somewhat sound ... Casino Drive was like Ironman Jon with a better pedigree and bigger following.

[NTamm1215]

Mineshaft's top progeny by lifetime earnings:

Casino Drive $838,539
Cool Coal Man $807,328
Sacher Mine $617,366
Discreetly Mine $559,350
Coal Play $528,068
Redding Colliery $402,853
Fly Down $397,070
A. U. Miner $273,175
Monomakh $204,698
Minewander $193,400

NT

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

How patient should we be? How many good Mineshafts has Zito pissed through? His first few crops sucked, plain and simple and he is not even the best son of Ap Indy at stud right now. No G1 winners yet, 4 crops. Are we waiting for 8th crop magic?

He's the leading 4th crop sire and is having a fantastic year. I was definitely disappointed in his start, but he's got some very good horses out there. So what if he's not the best son of AP Indy? That doesn't mean he's not any good.........

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Probably the first legitimate chance he'll have at getting a GI winner as well.

NT

What about Fly Down?

He's a perfect 3-0 lifetime in head-to-head meetings with First Dude. First Dude is a monster don't ya know.