8/1 (MTH): Haskell (G1), Oceanport & Matchmaker (G3's)

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I suck at this...but here goes.

Ice Box...............................6-1
Lookin at Lucky...................3-1
First Dude............................10-1
Super Saver.........................6-1
Afleet Again..........................20-1
Uptowncharleybrown............20-1
Trappe Shot..........................5-2
Our Dark Knight....................12-1

NO WAY VJ. Derby winner and runner up 6-1? Trainer by Zito and Todd? NO WAY. Ice Box might be ignored a bit, but Super Saver WILL BE BET.

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

NO WAY VJ. Derby winner and runner up 6-1? Trainer by Zito and Todd? NO WAY. Ice Box might be ignored a bit, but Super Saver WILL BE BET.

Gotta agree there SS will be bet but unless a horse with early speed enters Ice Box is just gonna be forgot about

Still would be nice to get 2 more horses in this field but who knows?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Gotta agree there SS will be bet but unless a horse with early speed enters Ice Box is just gonna be forgot about

Still would be nice to get 2 more horses in this field but who knows?

Trappe Shot, Super Saver and First Dude all have early speed. I gotta think Our Dark Knight would be on the pace also.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Gotta agree there SS will be bet but unless a horse with early speed enters Ice Box is just gonna be forgot about

Still would be nice to get 2 more horses in this field but who knows?

I don't think so.
Everyone know how magical Borel is at CD and, SS stunk up Pimlico.
I wouldn't surprised if the Preakness exacta is repeated here.

[RockHardTen1985]

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

He'll be the favorite. You aren't saying much

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

He'll be the favorite. You aren't saying much

Randy this is not a one race prediction. Its a 3yr old championship prediction, for a class/crop that is WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. He might be the favorite, but he might not be. If he is, it will be around 5-2 not odds on or anything like that.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Randy this is not a one race prediction. Its a 3yr old championship prediction, for a class/crop that is WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. He might be the favorite, but he might not be. If he is, it will be around 5-2 not odds on or anything like that.

Again you aren't saying much of anything here. But be my guest.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

Have to agree with you here. Lucky will beat these horses. I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

Based on what: running down Macias? How about this horse actually beats something, and covers a real distance of ground first? I realize there's really nothing out there but he's not even in the discussion yet.

[Sightseek]

Why does everyone think Ice Box is totally hopeless? I'm unsure whether I would use him on Sunday, especially since the field hasn't even been drawn, but I don't think he is as bad as his Belmont race.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Have to agree with you here. Lucky will beat these horses. I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

Todd Schrupp, is that you?

Seriously, a 3YO who has won a restricted race at a mile on the turf? I mean, I know we all want to be the one to notice the next superstar, and that this group of 3YOs is not particularly strong but Twirling Candy has zero credentials to be mentioned as a serious 3YO right now.

NT

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Todd Schrupp, is that you?

Seriously, a 3YO who has won a restricted race at a mile on the turf? I mean, I know we all want to be the one to notice the next superstar, and that this group of 3YOs is not particularly strong but Twirling Candy has zero credentials to be mentioned as a serious 3YO right now.

NT

Hey all I said is I think he is the best three year old out there. I don't expect anyone else to think that. If he can get some races under his belt he would prove me either wrong or right. He has all the tools to be a good solid horse in a weak class.

[Sightseek]

You just can't fly a horse over the Rockies that often and expect to win the Haskell.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

You just can't fly a horse over the Rockies that often and expect to win the Haskell.