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Old 07-22-2010, 07:56 PM
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whos fault is it NO ONE SHOWED UP FOR THAT GRADE 1 ON DIRT?
Jess Jackson passed on a $5 million purse because he's not exactly a shrewd handicapper nor a good sportsman.


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My biggest question about Rachel last year has nothing to do with Z, because I know Z would have beat her... Its what happens if Rachel runs in the Travers or Personal Ensign? Im pretty sure she gets beat in either spot.
Probably gets beat in the Personal Ensign - probably wins the Travers.

There's a lot you can do with hypotheticals - what if Nashoba's Key doesn't die in a stall accident? All of her synthetic races were on par with Zenyatta's and she was also undefeated over it. What if Rags to Riches isn't pressed so hard and doesn't get hurt? She was born the same year as Zenyatta. What if Zenyatta isn't given all the time in the world to develop and debuts before the end of her 3yo season? What if the BC isn't at Santa Anita on rubber two years in a row? Goldikova and Conduit both went back to back. Bad Eastern turf horse Life Is Sweet won the Distaff. What if Zenyatta faced a decent in form dirt horse?
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:00 PM
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Jess Jackson passed on a $5 million purse because he's not exactly a shrewd handicapper nor a good sportsman.




Probably gets beat in the Personal Ensign - probably wins the Travers.

There's a lot you can do with hypotheticals - what if Nashoba's Key doesn't die in a stall accident? All of her synthetic races were on par with Zenyatta's and she was also undefeated over it. What if Rags to Riches isn't pressed so hard and doesn't get hurt? She was born the same year as Zenyatta. What if Zenyatta isn't given all the time in the world to develop and debuts before the end of her 3yo season? What if the BC isn't at Santa Anita on rubber two years in a row? Does Goldikova and Conduit also go back to back? What if Zenyatta faced a decent in form dirt horse?

Doug I agree with everything your saying.... When you come with a serious argument its cool, my point was Z did show up at Oaklawn and I think Z is better then Rachel, but never did I say shes the best of all time.
Ateam just continues to respond with garbage, last night it was insults of my pics and now its **** about me and fatman, its funny, he clearly HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO SAY.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:05 PM
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Doug I agree with everything your saying.... When you come with a serious argument its cool, my point was Z did show up at Oaklawn and I think Z is better then Rachel, but never did I say shes the best of all time.
Ateam just continues to respond with garbage, last night it was insults of my pics and now its **** about me and fatman, its funny, he clearly HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO SAY.
There's no point in arguing with you seriously because you change your freaking opinion every two seconds and contradict yourself constantly. I have more enlightening discussions with myself.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:09 PM
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There's no point in arguing with you seriously because you change your freaking opinion every two seconds and contradict yourself constantly. I have more enlightening discussions with myself.

I never once said she was an all time great... Show me where I said it?
I never once said Rachel was better... Show me?
I think Icon Project would have beat both of them... I have been saying that since last year.
Where have I changed my opinion once? You CANT TAKE BEING WRONG, you always have to be right about everything.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:17 PM
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I never once said she was an all time great... Show me where I said it?
I never once said Rachel was better... Show me?
I think Icon Project would have beat both of them... I have been saying that since last year.
Where have I changed my opinion once? You CANT TAKE BEING WRONG, you always have to be right about everything.
I don't remember you going apeshit over Zenyatta beating those shopping carts at Oaklawn before, now she deserves a statue for shipping out of her backyard twice in three years?

Truthfully I'm sick to death of arguing about which '10 campaign has been less lame, and there's no argument about whose campaign was better last year. So what do you want me to say?
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:20 PM
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I don't remember you going apeshit over Zenyatta beating those shopping carts at Oaklawn before, now she deserves a statue for shipping out of her backyard twice in three years?

Truthfully I'm sick to death of arguing about which '10 campaign has been less lame, and there's no argument about whose campaign was better last year. So what do you want me to say?
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:25 PM
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Truthfully I'm sick to death of arguing about which '10 campaign has been less lame,
While both are lame beyond belief - Clearly Rachel's has been lamer ... but only because Shireffs cranked one up and caught her short 1st off the long layoff and that defeat bigtime deflated the grape sack of her brilliant owner.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:33 PM
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While both are lame beyond belief - Clearly Rachel's has been lamer ... but only because Shireffs cranked one up and caught her short 1st off the long layoff and that defeat bigtime deflated the grape sack of her brilliant owner.

probably more akin to a raisin by now....
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:42 PM
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Lets check in on Zenyatta's first Grade 1 win of 2010. That was the race where she recieved a phony 102 Beyer in victory because they were embarrassed to give Zenyatta a figure in the 90's and didn't want to be accused of having a bias against her. This is what she beat that day.







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