Polytrack devils advocates please respond

Originally Posted by oracle80

You haven't shown you agree or disagree with anything yet.
I've yet to see your thoughts on the race. Or can't you be bothered with things like PP's and handicapping races?
What do you think of the race Pillow? WHo do you like in the race and why?
Is it really that hard to answer this?

I'm going to the OTB today and i'll pick up a form and let you know. Chances are i'll be siding with CQ for the simple fact he likes to close. BUT if the track favors speed due to horses losing footing i'll probably look elsewhere.

Really this new surface is no different than the new turf at the Superdome. Even the greatest athletes fail at something they have no experience over. Just look at Michael Vick and Warrick Dunn that game. It looked like they were playing on a skating rink.

Advantage nawlins.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I'm going to the OTB today and i'll pick up a form and let you know. Chances are i'll be siding with CQ for the simple fact he likes to close. BUT if the track favors speed due to horses losing footing i'll probably look elsewhere.

Really this new surface is no different than the new turf at the Superdome. Even the greatest athletes fail at something they have no experience over. Just look at Michael Vick and Warrick Dunn that game. It looked like they were playing on a skating rink.

Advantage nawlins.

I saw that game and I think the emotion really carried nawlins as you say moreso than the surface.
They played like a team posessed.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I saw that game and I think the emotion really carried nawlins as you say moreso than the surface.
They played like a team posessed.

See? There simply isn't enough data to say whether the new turf is bad or good!!

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

See? There simply isn't enough data to say whether the new turf is bad or good!!

I agree with that to a lesser extent than you do. But agree somewhat. I'm not irrational.
But we had a firm policy at the old ESPN board where many of us came from that if you didn't post the thoughts before the race and tried to chirp afterwards, you were scorned and ridiculed and lambasted by the entire board. It kept redboarding to a minimum.
People who don't have DRF's or PP's who haven't seen a race thats being discussed(if its over already) have no business telling those who watched a race what they saw.
People who don't post thoughts before a race have no business crowing about how easy and obvious something is afterwards.
Maybe its a NY thing. You do that here at the track afterwards and are liable to get strangled. Its a beautiful thing.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I agree with that to a lesser extent than you do. But agree somewhat. I'm not irrational.
But we had a firm policy at the old ESPN board where many of us came from that if you didn't post the thoughts before the race and tried to chirp afterwards, you were scorned and ridiculed and lambasted by the entire board. It kept redboarding to a minimum.
People who don't have DRF's or PP's who haven't seen a race thats being discussed(if its over already) have no business telling those who watched a race what they saw.
People who don't post thoughts before a race have no business crowing about how easy and obvious something is afterwards.
Maybe its a NY thing. You do that here at the track afterwards and are liable to get strangled. Its a beautiful thing.

I don't believe I crowed about any of the Turfway races after the fact if I didn't have a wager on them.

The point I was trying to make with the Falcons-Saints game is that partly due to the new turf surface the hometeam had a big advantage. And that's pretty much what happened on KY cup day. Every stakes race was won by a local trainer and every jockey outside of Mike Smith who won a stakes race rides at Turfway.

Will this home field advantage last? Of course not. Through time the top trainers and horses will dominate on this surface just like they do on turf and dirt.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I don't believe I crowed about any of the Turfway races after the fact if I didn't have a wager on them.

The point I was trying to make with the Falcons-Saints game is that partly due to the new turf surface the hometeam had a big advantage. And that's pretty much what happened on KY cup day. Every stakes race was won by a local trainer and every jockey outside of Mike Smith who won a stakes race rides at Turfway.

Will this home field advantage last? Of course not. Through time the top trainers and horses will dominate on this surface just like they do on turf and dirt.

No pillow they wont. many horses just hate it. Its not something they will grow accustomed to, just like grass, they like it or they dont.

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I'm going to the OTB today and i'll pick up a form and let you know. Chances are i'll be siding with CQ for the simple fact he likes to close. BUT if the track favors speed due to horses losing footing i'll probably look elsewhere.

Really this new surface is no different than the new turf at the Superdome. Even the greatest athletes fail at something they have no experience over. Just look at Michael Vick and Warrick Dunn that game. It looked like they were playing on a skating rink.

Advantage nawlins.

They were tripping over the players with the gold/black and white uniforms