The Boss has passed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You can't have it both ways. If you want to say that George screwed them up for 20 years, then you can't say that its all about the money.

This is not nitpicking or semantics. Its a logical fallacy.

Surely you understand that George is an outlier to this hypothesis? Are you trying to discount the insanity that swirled round the team during that period? As soon as George was out of the picture the team became a mini- dynasty. As soon as his fingerprints got back on the team they faded and again were resurrected when his health started to fail. He alone was the divisive factor that countered the huge financial advantage and when he is out of the picture the advantage becomes evident.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Surely you understand that George is an outlier to this hypothesis? Are you trying to discount the insanity that swirled round the team during that period? As soon as George was out of the picture the team became a mini- dynasty. As soon as his fingerprints got back on the team they faded and again were resurrected when his health started to fail. He alone was the divisive factor that countered the huge financial advantage and when he is out of the picture the advantage becomes evident.

Regardless, money alone isn't going to do it. It makes it a ton easier, but money alone isn't going to do it.

Ask Peter Angelos. You can spend your team right in the tank.

Surely the yankees get some credit for selecting the right free agents lately. No?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Regardless, money alone isn't going to do it. It makes it a ton easier, but money alone isn't going to do it.

Ask Peter Angelos. You can spend your team right in the tank.

Surely the yankees get some credit for selecting the right free agents lately. No?

If you want to give them credit for throwing money at Sabathia and Texieria and Arod.

but this is a team that drastically overpaid for Burnett and can just absorb it. They are paying Kei Igawa 4 million this year to not play. They ate 1 million to test drive randy winn for a few weeks.

Arod makes 27 million this year
Sabathia makes 23 million this year
Jeter makes 19 million this year
Teixeria makes 20 million this year

those 4 make 17 million more than the rays entire roster

Burnett 16.5
Mariano 15
posada 13 million
Andy P 11.75
Vasquez 11 million
cano 9 million
Swisher 6.75
granderson 5.5
johnson 5.75

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If you want to give them credit for throwing money at Sabathia and Texieria and Arod.

but this is a team that drastically overpaid for Burnett and can just absorb it. They are paying Kei Igawa 4 million this year to not play. They ate 1 million to test drive randy winn for a few weeks.

Arod makes 27 million this year
Sabathia makes 23 million this year
Jeter makes 19 million this year
Teixeria makes 20 million this year

those 4 make 17 million more than the rays entire roster

Burnett 16.5
Mariano 15
posada 13 million
Andy P 11.75
Vasquez 11 million
cano 9 million
Swisher 6.75
granderson 5.5
johnson 5.75

They got Arod in a trade for homegrown players just like how Boston got Beckett and Lowell. Right?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

They got Arod in a trade for homegrown players just like how Boston got Beckett and Lowell. Right?

No they got Soriano the same way boston got Dice K. We all know the yankees out bid Boston for Arod.

Ramirez was a minor leaguer when they traded him.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No they got Soriano the same way boston got Dice K. We all know the yankees out bid Boston for Arod.

Ramirez was a minor leaguer when they traded him.

Wrong again. Soriano was given a 5 year 3 million dollar contract and the yankees didnt have to pay the japanese club any money to negotiate. Dice K was signed to 52 million plus the Sox paid his japanese club 51 million. A litte different I would say.

The Yankees outbid the Sox not in money but in players. The Sox wanted texas to take back Manny's contract (so loyal!) but the Yanks were offereing Soriano. The money difference was made up partially in texas agreeing to pay part of the arod contract.