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Old 07-18-2010, 10:57 AM
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It was a very subtle mistake he made, instead of pinching an advantage at the top of the stretch he waited for POP to gain position on the turn and pull up to his inside and that was the whole ballgame, one can say there was nothing wrong about the ride and if you are riding safe I guess that is the case, however in the subtle things that make a difference in winning and losing it was a mediocre ride, the rider had the horse off the pace in the 2 path waited until POP to make his move, lost the tactical advantage and kicked on. Being reactive rather than proactive, any journeyman jockey could reproduce a ride like that, no need for Pletcher to fly in Javier.
I dunno that it cost Interactif the race, but your first sentence struck me as the polar opposite of the great ride Cisco Torres gave Workin For Hops in the American Derby yesterday at Arlington.

Tactical pace, near the front, all the threats coming from the back, and instead of waiting til the lane to ask his horse, he opened up about 5/16-3/8 out and basically said "come and get me," and left everyone with way too much to do. Not sure he wins a quarter mile sprint against that bunch, but the horse was loaded and he cut him loose. It was superb.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:05 AM
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I dunno that it cost Interactif the race, but your first sentence struck me as the polar opposite of the great ride Cisco Torres gave Workin For Hops in the American Derby yesterday at Arlington.

Tactical pace, near the front, all the threats coming from the back, and instead of waiting til the lane to ask his horse, he opened up about 5/16-3/8 out and basically said "come and get me," and left everyone with way too much to do. Not sure he wins a quarter mile sprint against that bunch, but the horse was loaded and he cut him loose. It was superb.
I am glad someone here understands what I am trying to say, If you are much the best yeah sure there was nothing wrong with Castallano's ride yesterday, Torres knew what he was doing he was alteast going for it. I can live with rides like these, but when you have a foe that is pretty much evenly matched you have to try to take every advantage you can get, pinch a lead, save ground, hug the rail, I didn't see that from his ride yesterday, he couldn't even steer him straight and smoothly on the final turn. I am not saying Interactif would have won had he done all these things correctly, however I do think these 2 are more closely evenly matched than the 1.75 lengths from yesterday's race apparently showed.
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Old 07-18-2010, 05:27 PM
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Interactiff could have been in front of Paddy O' Prado. He could have been behind him. He could have been inside of him. He could have been outside of him. But no matter what, he wouldn't have beaten him. Paddy was much the best and there was no scenario where Interactiff would have beaten him.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:16 AM
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Interactiff could have been in front of Paddy O' Prado. He could have been behind him. He could have been inside of him. He could have been outside of him. But no matter what, he wouldn't have beaten him. Paddy was much the best and there was no scenario where Interactiff would have beaten him.
Much the best, I don't agree.
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