7/17 (CNL): VA Derby (G2), VA Oaks (G3)

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I was thinking plodder.

If you watch his turf races I'm not really sure how you could label him a plodder.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

If you watch his turf races I'm not really sure how you could label him a plodder.

Maybe I was being harsh, I dont love the chalk here either. I like Krypton and Statley.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Maybe I was being harsh, I dont love the chalk here either. I like Krypton and Statley.

Stately Victor definitely has some hidden turf form as he was given two trainwrecks for rides at Gulfstream. I think he has a good shot also.

I just can't see taking a short price on Paddy O Prado. This field is much better than he beat last time.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Stately Victor definitely has some hidden turf form as he was given two trainwrecks for rides at Gulfstream. I think he has a good shot also.

I just can't see taking a short price on Paddy O Prado. This field is much better than he beat last time.

I totally agree, and think out of the 4 logical contenders, I will get the best price on Krypton and SV.

[hockey2315]

Paddy and Stately Victor will battle down the stretch just to taunt how little money I made on both of them.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Paddy and Stately Victor will battle down the stretch just to taunt how little money I made on both of them.

Visually I did not like Paddy last run, seems like Kent went to work early and hard. Maybe Im wrong, but I think hes empty in the lane.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Visually I did not like Paddy last run, seems like Kent went to work early and hard. Maybe Im wrong, but I think hes empty in the lane.

You're sure you watched the Colonial Turf Cup? He jogged while saving ground for three quarters, inhaled the leaders in a dozen jumps on the turn when asked for run, and widened with every stride the last eighth. It's tough to envision a more impressive effort.

He is tactical. Has gears and a burst, and looks to have pace to stalk or rally into. He can adjust to any pace scenario and shouldn't get beat.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You're sure you watched the Colonial Turf Cup? He jogged while saving ground for three quarters, inhaled the leaders in a dozen jumps on the turn when asked for run, and widened with every stride the last eighth. It's tough to envision a more impressive effort.

He is tactical. Has gears and a burst, and looks to have pace to stalk or rally into. He can adjust to any pace scenario and shouldn't get beat.

Shouldn't get beat? I think shouldn't get beat is very over confident even if its just based on the much improved competition he faces this time.

Is it not the accepted opinion that poly and turf play the same? If this is true what was his excuse in the Bluegrass when SV totally blew him away? I did just go back and watch the race, and Kent scrapped pretty hard on him, now he did win off the right way but like Hoss said earlier he faced nothing. Doubles Partner was the co choice, co favorite and he did not fire at all, he looked uncomfortable from the very start. Im def. going to question what he beat, I think Krypton, SV and Todd's horse are all better then anything he beat last time, and Im guessing he goes off at around 6-5, so IMO he is worth totally tossing as far as the win end in the pick 3 and pick 4, beating him in those bets will lead to overlay payouts. Its not like he is a standout the 2 I mentioned, and even Todds IMO are as good as him. He is a bad favorite in this spot, and Im going to put some $ into trying to beat him. Even if I am wrong about him being empty in the lane, I still think 2,3 horses are as good as him and can simply out finish him.