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![]() There is a difference between every horse (but one) getting a new top, and every horse (but one) getting new tops averaging 18 points, or about 11 lengths.
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But I'm not allowed to discuss Beyers anymore so I'll shut up now.
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The 94 is certainly debatable, but any time a race has to stand on its own that will happen. Does anyone really believe Gio Ponti ran a 100 yesterday? That one is probably off by a lot more than this one. |
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Oh you victim you.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB |
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It isn't just the importance to future races' betting determinations- which like them or not, the Beyers drive millions in handle, but in the breeding industry, and their historical ranks, horses are also referenced and promoted by their Beyer figure accomplishments. They are the industry standard- shouldn't they be the best? No question the turf Beyers have even more "interpretation"... but also much less importance. Please. I got banned at PA for a similar argument. Not going to do the same here. For one, I have a LOT more respect for Steve as a person and a friend than the other guy, for two, I actually like the people here.
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You went 0 for 3.....but you knew that.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB |
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![]() What adjustment would have been made if you replace the name "Blind Luck" with the name "Rachel Alexandra"?
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![]() When is the last time you can say a figure by Rachel Alexandra was broken out from the others? I can't remember one, but maybe you didn't just make this up. Enlighten me.
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![]() There is no way they should put a 115 in the paper. If that is done, they look like fools in the future.
Blind Luck overcame a moderate pace to win from the back. There is simply no way she ran a 115 with the pace that way, or even close. I can buy a high 90s at best. I'm not saying the 94 is dead accurate, that is not possible. But I would say the chances the 94 are correct are much higher than a 115, because the chances a 115 are correct are none. As for PA, you know why you were banned. It had ZERO to do with Beyer figures. |
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(And somebody's lackey misquoting me in the process.) As for your point about them "looking like fools"... I think this is actually the problem. There is a concern they need to justify why or why not a horse repeats or doesn't repeat a performance- when they owe nothing.
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