Rule of Thumb for wagering at Keeneland

Originally Posted by oracle80

That was based on With A City, and I notice you left that part of the quote out.
You aren't a very good sleuth, to say the very least.

So it's With A City's fault now?

Spin spin spin. I GOTTA BE RIGHT!

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

So it's With A City's fault now?

Spin spin spin. I GOTTA BE RIGHT!

Again,
I don't know whats so hard to grasp about a race being so unformful as With A City's being a kinda negative experience in your first start playing Poly.
I certainly didn't think Lemons was any kind of cinch, I just though she was value, and it certainly didn't shock me that she lost.
WHen you can beat me in knoweldge of something, get back to me.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Again,
I don't know whats so hard to grasp about a race being so unformful as With A City's being a kinda negative experience in your first start playing Poly.
I certainly didn't think Lemons was any kind of cinch, I just though she was value, and it certainly didn't shock me that she lost.
WHen you can beat me in knoweldge of something, get back to me.

IQ test for 50k. Anytime. Anyplace.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

IQ test for 50k. Anytime. Anyplace. A$$holeface.

Seattleallstar offered me that same challenge, ask him how he made out with that one.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Seattleallstar offered me that same challenge, ask him how he made out with that one.

Yes or no. No more spin.

[SniperSB23]

What was so bad about With a City winning that race? The field was dreadful. Would it have been so much better if Hemingway's Key or Superfly won? Seaside Retreat? Malameeze? More than Regal? Pair of Kings? Sharp Attack? Tahoe Warrior? Laity? Silent Times? Starspangled Gator? In a race full of nags someone has to win.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

What was so bad about With a City winning that race? The field was dreadful. Would it have been so much better if Hemingway's Key or Superfly won? Seaside Retreat? Malameeze? More than Regal? Pair of Kings? Sharp Attack? Tahoe Warrior? Laity? Silent Times? Starspangled Gator? In a race full of nags someone has to win.

And it has to be Oracle's horse. Don't you see?

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

What was so bad about With a City winning that race? The field was dreadful. Would it have been so much better if Hemingway's Key or Superfly won? Seaside Retreat? Malameeze? More than Regal? Pair of Kings? Sharp Attack? Tahoe Warrior? Laity? Silent Times? Starspangled Gator? In a race full of nags someone has to win.

With A City's form on dirt was absolutely dreadful, and I mean woeful. It wasn't like he had ever been even remotely competitive in anything. He failed in claimers.
Seaside Retreat was just about as bad. When they ran 1-2 I said ok, thats it.
You devils advocate guys are piss poor. You can make that argument in hindsight with any horse.
So how much did you guys have on him? You musta made one hell of a killing because if you can justify him winning that race(of course now its in hindsight, as usual) then you should have had a bundle on him at those odds.
WHo exactly is bull****ting who here?
You guys wanna get on me because I think an impossible horse won and admit it. Then you guys wanna tell me how he figured. Gee, how much did you guys have on him then? If you didn't bet him then its pretty obvious who the bull****ters are.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by oracle80

With A City's form on dirt was absolutely dreadful, and I mean woeful. It wasn't like he had ever been even remotely competitive in anything. He failed in claimers.
Seaside Retreat was just about as bad. When they ran 1-2 I said ok, thats it.
You devils advocate guys are piss poor. You can make that argument in hindsight with any horse.
So how much did you guys have on him? You musta made one hell of a killing because if you can justify him winning that race(of course now its in hindsight, as usual) then you should have had a bundle on him at those odds.
WHo exactly is bull****ting who here?
You guys wanna get on me because I think an impossible horse won and admit it. Then you guys wanna tell me how he figured. Gee, how much did you guys have on him then? If you didn't bet him then its pretty obvious who the bull****ters are.

I liked Silent Times so I didn't do too well in that race.

With a City actually broke his maiden on dirt and then ran 3rd and 4th in two stakes races before falling to the claiming ranks. He then won two in a row on the turf before flopping on the polytrack first race back off the layoff. I've said twice now that I think turf horses do well on polytrack and that is the only big difference in the surface. I'm yet to see an established dirt horse go to polytrack and not take to it. Lawyer Ron was not established when he ran on the poly and Lemons Forever has a first and a third in two starts on poly and they are running her in a G1 against older mares on it this weekend so her connections certainly don't think she has a problem with it.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I liked Silent Times so I didn't do too well in that race.

With a City actually broke his maiden on dirt and then ran 3rd and 4th in two stakes races before falling to the claiming ranks. He then won two in a row on the turf before flopping on the polytrack first race back off the layoff. I've said twice now that I think turf horses do well on polytrack and that is the only big difference in the surface. I'm yet to see an established dirt horse go to polytrack and not take to it. Lawyer Ron was not established when he ran on the poly and Lemons Forever has a first and a third in two starts on poly and they are running her in a G1 against older mares on it this weekend so her connections certainly don't think she has a problem with it.

Ok so basically you chastised me for saying I thought he was impossible and didn't bet him, and you made a case on how he could havebeen played, yet didn't bet a nickel on him at a zillion to one.
I understand.