Vaccines are NOT safe for children

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, bring back smallpox!

over the top...as usual!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

over the top...as usual!

Here, Timmi and Golfer, learn something. I especially draw your attention to Table 1.

http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvac...m096228.htm#t2

[Danzig]

i'd imagine that for every link showing vaccines are bad, an alternate viewpoint could be found.
small sampling, but i have three kids who were all vaccinated, with no adverse reactions-and no worries about mumps, measles, rubella, polio, etc, etc.
and i received who knows how many vaccinations when in the military, both in boot camp and before heading to japan. nope, no problems there either.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'd imagine that for every link showing vaccines are bad, an alternate viewpoint could be found.
small sampling, but i have three kids who were all vaccinated, with no adverse reactions-and no worries about mumps, measles, rubella, polio, etc, etc.
and i received who knows how many vaccinations when in the military, both in boot camp and before heading to japan. nope, no problems there either.

And you still have all your teeth!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

And you still have all your teeth!

so do my kids!

[Indian Charlie]

Vaccines are a moot point, since they do not work.

Disease rates were already falling, with many nearly wiped out before their 'miracle' shot(s) was even invented.

Said diseases, when their vaccine was introduced, typically went up for a few years. That statistics on this are readily available and can be dug up with little effort, for those that don't have their minds already sealed shut.

Here's a fun little known tidbit. If you remove infant mortality out of the average life expectancy calculation, people in this country were actually living longer in 1900 than in 2000.

Truly the weirdest single thing about our health care system is how desperate everyone is to have it. What's weird about that is that EVERYONE knows the system is corrupt and broken. Everyone knows that people are suffering from more diseases and are generally more miserable than they were just 20 to 30 years ago, yet everyone is terrified to the possibility that our medical system is, at best, a complete failure (or at worst, a terrible fraud).

Autism up. Cancers up. Cardiovascular 'disease' up. Obesity up. Psych problems up and on and on and on it goes. Anyone with any foresight can see the direction things are headed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Vaccines are a moot point, since they do not work.

Disease rates were already falling, with many nearly wiped out before their 'miracle' shot(s) was even invented.

Said diseases, when their vaccine was introduced, typically went up for a few years. That statistics on this are readily available and can be dug up with little effort, for those that don't have their minds already sealed shut.

Here's a fun little known tidbit. If you remove infant mortality out of the average life expectancy calculation, people in this country were actually living longer in 1900 than in 2000.

Truly the weirdest single thing about our health care system is how desperate everyone is to have it. What's weird about that is that EVERYONE knows the system is corrupt and broken. Everyone knows that people are suffering from more diseases and are generally more miserable than they were just 20 to 30 years ago, yet everyone is terrified to the possibility that our medical system is, at best, a complete failure (or at worst, a terrible fraud).

Autism up. Cancers up. Cardiovascular 'disease' up. Obesity up. Psych problems up and on and on and on it goes. Anyone with any foresight can see the direction things are headed.

Hum. Maybe there actually is something to Golfer's claim that the gub'ment is secretly putting stuff in vaccines in order to make citizens dumber.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Vaccines are a moot point, since they do not work.

Disease rates were already falling, with many nearly wiped out before their 'miracle' shot(s) was even invented.

Said diseases, when their vaccine was introduced, typically went up for a few years. That statistics on this are readily available and can be dug up with little effort, for those that don't have their minds already sealed shut.

Here's a fun little known tidbit. If you remove infant mortality out of the average life expectancy calculation, people in this country were actually living longer in 1900 than in 2000.

Truly the weirdest single thing about our health care system is how desperate everyone is to have it. What's weird about that is that EVERYONE knows the system is corrupt and broken. Everyone knows that people are suffering from more diseases and are generally more miserable than they were just 20 to 30 years ago, yet everyone is terrified to the possibility that our medical system is, at best, a complete failure (or at worst, a terrible fraud).

Autism up. Cancers up. Cardiovascular 'disease' up. Obesity up. Psych problems up and on and on and on it goes. Anyone with any foresight can see the direction things are headed.

If all they did was not work, they would be moot, but the link between thimerisol and autism is undeniable (for those of us who don't already know everything).

But wait, according to a link above, the government says vaccines are safe, so I guess skeptics and conspiracy "nuts" like myself and Robert Kennedy Jr are wrong.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Autism up.[B

Cancers up.[/b] Cardiovascular 'disease' up. Obesity up. Psych problems up and on and on and on it goes. Anyone with any foresight can see the direction things are headed.

Anyone with some objectivity - rather than fear and rumor - can put it in perspective.

WEDNESDAY, July 7 (HealthDay News) -- The number of deaths due to cancer continues to decline in the United States, according to new statistics from the American Cancer Society.

In fact, the downward trend, which began in the early 1990s, means about 767,000 fewer deaths from cancer over the past two decades, according to society estimates.

The report finds that the death rate from cancer overall in the United States in 2007 was 178.4 per 100,000 people -- a drop of 1.3 percent from the previous year.

This decline continues a trend that started in 1991 for men and in 1992 for women. Since that time, death rates have fallen 21 percent among men and 12 percent among women, the report says.

"Cancer death rates continue to decrease because of prevention, early detection and improved treatment," said lead researcher Dr. Ahmedin Jemal, the strategic director for cancer occurrence at the society.

"The decline in cancer incidence and mortality among the U.S. population is a positive sign that public health campaigns and public policy regarding smoking, and greater utilization of and stricter guidelines for cancer screenings are working," agreed Monique N. Hernandez, a senior research analyst at the Florida Cancer Data System at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine.

For 2010, the cancer society predicts 1,529,560 new cancer cases (789,620 in men and 739,940 in women) and 569,490 cancer deaths (299,200 in men and 270,290 in women).

As before, lung cancer remains the biggest cancer killer of both men and women. For men, the next biggest killers are cancers of the prostate and colon. For women, breast and colon that are the second and third most lethal cancers by number.

Overall, these cancers account for 50 percent of all cancer deaths among men and women, the report found

And while cancer is on the retreat, the good news hasn't affected all Americans equally. Indeed, the report found that black men are 14 percent more likely to get cancer and 34 percent more likely to die than white men, while black women have a 7 percent lower cancer rate overall but are 17 percent more likely to die than white women.

To help eliminate those disparities, Hernandez believes that experts and policymakers "must move beyond traditional behavioral explanations, such as individual smoking habits and screening utilization, and encompass aspects of the social, political, and economic contexts of health, which are also heavily variable by geography."

Of course that last part feeds into Obama's socialist, government-run death panel health care government telling us what to do regarding health. Who will they come for, first?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'd imagine that for every link showing vaccines are bad, an alternate viewpoint could be found.

Yes. That's why who is authoring the link, and the validity of the information, that is important.