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Old 07-04-2010, 11:44 AM
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Just to be recognized by the innovative inventor of The Fat Charts is truly an honor.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:48 AM
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Just to be recognized by the innovative inventor of The Fat Charts is truly an honor.
You mean those same charts that produced TWO $40 winners this past week and a $60 winner last month (among many others)?

Btw, I considered your suggesting to put pace numbers on them then decided against it given my results utilizing them as is.

Keep using the Beyers and pace numbers religiously, it suits you. Though you might actually want to go on a limb and discuss a 'live' race every once in a while.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:56 AM
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You mean those same charts that produced TWO $40 winners this past week and a $60 winner last month (among many others)?

Btw, I considered your suggesting to put pace numbers on them then decided against it given my results utilizing them as is.

Keep using the Beyers and pace numbers religiously, it suits you. Though you might actually want to go on a limb and discuss a 'live' race every once in a while.
No one cares.

But cool.

I'm showing a top selection flat bet profit for the 3rd straight year with picks I'm making 24 hours ahead of time - before scratches and odds can even be viewed.

Even with my flawed handicapping methods and all.
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Old 07-04-2010, 11:59 AM
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Fu.ck ya I wiN!
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:00 PM
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Who is better? TFM or the dude from Joisey?
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:01 PM
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Who is better? TFM or the dude from Joisey?
I don't know, but I'd pay $100 for a ringside seat with those two in the Octagon.
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:03 PM
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I don't know, but I'd pay $100 for a ringside seat with those two in the Octagon.
TFM would tap out 3 seconds before the match started .... not that I wouldn't either.
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:02 PM
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Who is better? TFM or the dude from Joisey?
I'm going to give TFM the benefit of the doubt ... and say I'll take TFM minus the points.
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:02 PM
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No one cares.

But cool.

I'm showing a top selection flat bet profit for the 3rd straight year with picks I'm making 24 hours ahead of time - before scratches and odds can even be viewed.

Even with my flawed handicapping methods and all.
You're trying to use Mike the Eunuch logic on me? Is there any reason why someone who spends a good deal of their time handicapping a SINGLE track shouldn't be able to do very nicely, even with the prescratch situation? If I were watching every replay at a single track and following every horse, how many winners do you think I'd pick a week: Beforehand or otherwise? And not just me, just about anybody.

I don't doubt your ability. I just get tired of the same nonsense posts here.
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Old 07-04-2010, 12:05 PM
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I don't doubt your ability. I just get tired of the same nonsense posts here.
I'm here solely to entertain myself ... not you.

For me, this is like masturbation in a way.


Sorry you had to find out this way.
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:54 PM
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While showing a profit at PID is respectable, lets put it in perspective. Absolutely no serious players are wagering there. The pools are non-existent, especially the win pools. If Albert Pujols played AA ball, he'd bat .500 and win the Triple Crown. Nobody would give a damn.

Did you really take time off for a few months to come back with more penis and jerk off jokes?
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Old 07-04-2010, 05:08 PM
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While showing a profit at PID is respectable, lets put it in perspective. Absolutely no serious players are wagering there. The pools are non-existent, especially the win pools. If Albert Pujols played AA ball, he'd bat .500 and win the Triple Crown. Nobody would give a damn.
Very few people would care even if it was something done at a major circuit - where I don't disagree it would be harder to do.

Having to make selections for every single race - 24 hours in advance - before scratches and without seeing odds ... it's a lot like asking a hitter to swing at every single pitch thrown in every at-bat ... or asking an offense to run a scripted set of plays without having the ability to audible and adjust for defensive schemes, looks, and formations.

No matter what track you're playing - you're placed at a signifcant disadvantage in terms of producing profit when you're denied the ability to pass a race or adjust to situations and current odds.

You're wired a whole lot better than me - but I'd like to see how you would handle a person who runs a racetrack basically telling you that you aren't on par as a handicapper with a ditzy girl who has confused Delaware Park's track symbol in the form, with that of Delta Downs on more than one occasion. That you're handicapping is not on par with a guy who makes a horse off a 7 year layoff, for a 1-for-40 trainer, 3/1 on the morning line. And why this conclusion? Because you're so young and you're local... which is like supposed to translate to 'you can't possibly know anything about anything'

I can't imagine anyone as bitter about the lack of recognition or respect recieved in terms of how complete they are as a handicapper.

I think there are a few guys who are as good - and some of those probably even better - in terms of playing for profit. But that's an entirely different animal than being complete.

I'll spend hours of really breaking down trainers, horses, races, post positions stats, etc of obscure tracks I don't ever intend to play. I'll spend hours of researching time periods that have passed, some have long passed. I'll spend hundreds of hours over the course of a year working on stuff that will gain me an edge on rare occasions that I know others aren't going to bother with.

I think that stuff comes at the expense of short term profits you can make if all that focus was directed that way instead. I'd rather know a little more than maybe put myself in position to bank a little more.
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Old 07-04-2010, 07:21 PM
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While showing a profit at PID is respectable, lets put it in perspective. Absolutely no serious players are wagering there. The pools are non-existent, especially the win pools. If Albert Pujols played AA ball, he'd bat .500 and win the Triple Crown. Nobody would give a damn.

Did you really take time off for a few months to come back with more penis and jerk off jokes?
That sucks. I thought I was doing good by turning a profit at the track I play, but I guess not. No "serious players are wagering there", the "pools are non-existent" and nobody gives a damn about the place.

****. I'd better get cracking on 'capping bigger tracks.

I thought DrugS was serious about his penis and jerking off, thanks for clearing up the fact that he is only joking.
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