What Horses are not in the Hall of Fame you think should be?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Heres another nice article about Cruguet that all should read.

http://www.saratoga.com/horse-racing...n-cruguet.html

The person who wrote that article made the following quote in the comments section.

"He IS an amazing man, and no doubt the BEST, most gifted jockey who ever rode a horse."


Seriously???

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The person who wrote that article made the following quote in the comments section.

"He IS an amazing man, and no doubt the BEST, most gifted jockey who ever rode a horse."


Seriously???

Im not saying take it all as gospel, she also says he is a dear friend. But she make some good points of why type of jockey and person he was. What types of money he made lifetime 51million and this is before purses hit the roof. Not every better that lost 2 dollars on the guy can offer an opinion about who he was. Hes an ambassador to the sport and gave his all while he was in it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Im not saying take it all as gospel, she also says he is a dear friend. But she make some good points of why type of jockey and person he was. What types of money he made lifetime 51million and this is before purses hit the roof. Not every better that lost 2 dollars on the guy can offer an opinion about who he was. Hes an ambassador to the sport and gave his all while he was in it.

All of which is nice but Hall of Fames should be for the best of the best and Cruget wasnt really ever considered one of the best riders in NY, in some circles he was thought of as a negative.
(a pretty wide circle i might add)

Answer the question honestly. If he did not win the TC on Seattle Slew would you have ever heard of him?

There are too many jockeys in the HoF as it is. Hell there are about 1000 times more jockeys per capita than horses.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

All of which is nice but Hall of Fames should be for the best of the best and Cruget wasnt really ever considered one of the best riders in NY, in some circles he was thought of as a negative.
(a pretty wide circle i might add)

Answer the question honestly. If he did not win the TC on Seattle Slew would you have ever heard of him?

There are too many jockeys in the HoF as it is. Hell there are about 1000 times more jockeys per capita than horses.

I grew up in Saratoga and made the races there every single day of my life until I moved away when I was 22, so yes I def knew who he was. I knew who he was before I knew that he even won the triple crown. Im not new to this sport, ive been gambling since i was like 7 and been going to the windows personally since I was 12. Im a classic case of a gambling degenerate. Ill bet on 2 ants crossing the street.

And yes there are too many jocks in the hall, I said this earlier. It should be a hell of alot harder to get into the hall. All im saying is Jeans numbers compare and are actually better that alot of jocks already in there.

Im thinking in hind sight Jean got a bad rap back in the day. He WON thats all that matters, not what certain trainers were quoted as saying about him or inner circle that may have hated him because they lost money on him because of a bum ride. Jocks give bum rides day in and out now a days, it a very common occurrence, people just dont remember them as much as they used to

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The person who wrote that article made the following quote in the comments section.

"He IS an amazing man, and no doubt the BEST, most gifted jockey who ever rode a horse."


Seriously???

My favorite part of the article was the picture of Seattle Slew winning the '78 Marlboro Cup....

with ANGEL CORDERO JR up!