When does the $1,000,000 a day start at MTH?

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Let me ask you a question GG. How close to $50 million do they have to give out for you not to declare that they never intended to give out the $50 million? $45 mill? $48mill? $49,999,999?

of course if it is 49 million or close to that its close enough. but when the number is closer to 45 million i will be waiting for the excuses.

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

of course if it is 49 million or close to that its close enough. but when the number is closer to 45 million i will be waiting for the excuses.

May I ask.. why are you so worried about this?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by TitanSooner

May I ask.. why are you so worried about this?

May I ask....why is it such a problem if some people want to discuss this?

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by TitanSooner

May I ask.. why are you so worried about this?

worried about it? im not at all. this is a discussion board right?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

of course if it is 49 million or close to that its close enough. but when the number is closer to 45 million i will be waiting for the excuses.

So if they are 10% underpaid you are expecting a scandal or something? LOl

AP was underpaid far more than (%wise) that last season. Thankfully I may add because it kept them from slashing the purses there this year.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So if they are 10% underpaid you are expecting a scandal or something? LOl

AP was underpaid far more than (%wise) that last season. Thankfully I may add because it kept them from slashing the purses there this year.

AP didn't advertise something....something that is being inaccurately repeated ad finitum.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

AP didn't advertise something....something that is being inaccurately repeated ad finitum.

I think that the advertising thing is completely overblow here. If they cant fill some of the higher purse races what are they supposed to do with the extra money?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think that the advertising thing is completely overblow here. If they cant fill some of the higher purse races what are they supposed to do with the extra money?

Advertising is a euphamism. The fact is that this exclamation has, and is, repeated over and over again....yet it doesn't appear to be true. No, this is not the biggest deal in the world, and it doesn't change the fact that the betting public has reacted very favorably to their meet....but it also doesn't make people that point it out either wrong or evil.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Advertising is a euphamism. The fact is that this exclamation has, and is, repeated over and over again....yet it doesn't appear to be true. No, this is not the biggest deal in the world, and it doesn't change the fact that the betting public has reacted very favorably to their meet....but it also doesn't make people that point it out either wrong or evil.

Hey its horseracing where the Breeders Cup mile has been held at 1 1/16th. A million a day has a better ring to it than $948,943.35 a day does.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Hey its horseracing where the Breeders Cup mile has been held at 1 1/16th. A million a day has a better ring to it than $948,943.35 a day does.

Or $843,292.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So if they are 10% underpaid you are expecting a scandal or something? LOl

AP was underpaid far more than (%wise) that last season. Thankfully I may add because it kept them from slashing the purses there this year.

i dont remember saying anything about a scandal at all and what arlington did last year is apples and oranges. if magna promised something important like purses and then came 10% away from delivering it, there would be discussion about it. if cdi did it, there would be discussion. if nyra did it, there would be discussion.

so why the rush to hush up anyone trying to discuss this?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

i dont remember saying anything about a scandal at all and what arlington did last year is apples and oranges. if magna promised something important like purses and then came 10% away from delivering it, there would be discussion about it. if cdi did it, there would be discussion. if nyra did it, there would be discussion.

so why the rush to hush up anyone trying to discuss this?

No this isnt apples and oranges. What you seemingly dont understand is that yes magna and CDI and NYRA and every other tack has overpaid and underpaid purses every meet. 10% is not a gross underpayment and that money is still due to the horseman. It isnt like tracks can underpay purses and just keep the money (though John Brunetti has tried)

Hell CDI had a contract with the horseman concerning sponsorship money (Yum) and they didnt pay the purse account what was owed for almost 2 years passed and only then after they were sued by the HBPA.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No this isnt apples and oranges. What you seemingly dont understand is that yes magna and CDI and NYRA and every other tack has overpaid and underpaid purses every meet. 10% is not a gross underpayment and that money is still due to the horseman. It isnt like tracks can underpay purses and just keep the money (though John Brunetti has tried)

Hell CDI had a contract with the horseman concerning sponsorship money (Yum) and they didnt pay the purse account what was owed for almost 2 years passed and only then after they were sued by the HBPA.

Once again, this is not likely to be applicable here. However, time will tell, and perhaps I will be wrong about this.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No this isnt apples and oranges. What you seemingly dont understand is that yes magna and CDI and NYRA and every other tack has overpaid and underpaid purses every meet. 10% is not a gross underpayment and that money is still due to the horseman. It isnt like tracks can underpay purses and just keep the money (though John Brunetti has tried)

Hell CDI had a contract with the horseman concerning sponsorship money (Yum) and they didnt pay the purse account what was owed for almost 2 years passed and only then after they were sued by the HBPA.

you keep wanting to move the discussion away from what i am saying in an attempt to act like i dont understand something. i never said this hasnt happened at other meets. im just saying why isnt it up for discussion now?

i cant wait until labor day. maybe i will "get it" by then.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

you keep wanting to move the discussion away from what i am saying in an attempt to act like i dont understand something. i never said this hasnt happened at other meets. im just saying why isnt it up for discussion now?

i cant wait until labor day. maybe i will "get it" by then.

Because underpayment of purses is 1. hard to discuss until it happens and 2. is a regular occurence. Why does this keep eluding you?

Perhaps if you stopped trying to defend yourself against imaginary attacks you could understand better? Like I said if Monmouth doles out 47.6 million in purses after 50 days it is still not much of a story.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Because underpayment of purses is 1. hard to discuss until it happens and 2. is a regular occurence. Why does this keep eluding you?

Perhaps if you stopped trying to defend yourself against imaginary attacks you could understand better? Like I said if Monmouth doles out 47.6 million in purses after 50 days it is still not much of a story.

so this is what your position is reduced to? might have just been easier to admit you were wrong a few pages back. you keep failing to recognize that the #1 slogan for the monmouth meet is 50 million in 50 days.

the money is why people are at monmouth. the fact that so far they arent close to averaging a million a day and wont be at the end of the meet is a story. at least some people think it is including the thread starter. you dont and that is fine.

but why set yourself up in the middle of a discussion that

1. you have said you dont care about
2. you have no interest in actually discussing
3. you dont think is even a story
4. you are wrong about, but too hard headed to admit?

why waste your time on something like this?