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Old 06-25-2010, 11:15 PM
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They have been averaging $520k on Fridays, $890k on Saturdays, $750k on Sundays, and $886k on Mondays. http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...3c&hl=en#gid=0

Given that their three or four biggest days are still to come, those averages will rise. They will probably fall short of the marketing $50mm in 50 days, but apparently $900k/day, doubling handle, and increasing runners per race by over 2 isn't good enough.
they have run one monday correct? it was memorial day. of course the purses were high that day. the point is that they are currently way under what was advertised and they will never be near 1 million a day.

that has nothing to do with doubling handle or increasing runners. the thread is about a claim that so far isnt close to being true and has zero chance to being true. i havent seen anyone in this thread talk about the meet being unsuccesful. just that their claim about purses isnt true.

wake me when you are done apologizing.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:34 PM
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they have run one monday correct? it was memorial day. of course the purses were high that day. the point is that they are currently way under what was advertised and they will never be near 1 million a day.

that has nothing to do with doubling handle or increasing runners. the thread is about a claim that so far isnt close to being true and has zero chance to being true. i havent seen anyone in this thread talk about the meet being unsuccesful. just that their claim about purses isnt true.

wake me when you are done apologizing.
Do you have horses running there? No? Didn't think so. Therefore the purse structure is irrelevant to you. I'm not apologizing for ****, it's a focking marketing line. Hell, There isn't even 50 days from opening until labor day, it's 49 days. Additionally, there are only 3 Mondays and all are holidays so Memorial Day is a reasonable proxy for the other two. If you're that concerned about the analysis check the condition book for July 5th.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:40 PM
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Do you have horses running there? No? Didn't think so. Therefore the purse structure is irrelevant to you. I'm not apologizing for ****, it's a focking marketing line. Hell, There isn't even 50 days from opening until labor day, it's 49 days.
i didnt know in order to comment on the purse structure i needed to own horses running there. sorry that makes no sense. whats with the emotional outbursts in this thread?
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:49 PM
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i didnt know in order to comment on the purse structure i needed to own horses running there. sorry that makes no sense. whats with the emotional outbursts in this thread?
Perhaps you should educate yourself by reading some of the other threads on this topic. It's been very polarizing around here.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:00 AM
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Perhaps you should educate yourself by reading some of the other threads on this topic. It's been very polarizing around here.
im pretty educated on the topic but thanks for the advice. will reading the other threads somehow make monmouths claims true?

im not trying to be a wiseguy, but so far in this thread ive been called a moron and told that since i dont own horses at monmouth i shouldnt be concerned with purse structure. this entire thing isnt a big deal as monmouth will still give away a lot of money and have increased handle.

however after reading some threads here about other circuits i cant help but think about what the response would be if the same claims were made by other circuits and were in fact overexaggerated.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:12 AM
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im pretty educated on the topic but thanks for the advice. will reading the other threads somehow make monmouths claims true?

im not trying to be a wiseguy, but so far in this thread ive been called a moron and told that since i dont own horses at monmouth i shouldnt be concerned with purse structure. this entire thing isnt a big deal as monmouth will still give away a lot of money and have increased handle.

however after reading some threads here about other circuits i cant help but think about what the response would be if the same claims were made by other circuits and were in fact overexaggerated.
Not trying to be a wiseguy? Wanna take back what you said to me earlier?(which I avoided to this point...)

As for reading the other posts, I'm not referring to the structure discussion but rather the passion on one side or the other this has created. I don't know why it has but this thread has just continued that.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:21 AM
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Not trying to be a wiseguy? Wanna take back what you said to me earlier?(which I avoided to this point...)

As for reading the other posts, I'm not referring to the structure discussion but rather the passion on one side or the other this has created. I don't know why it has but this thread has just continued that.
if i recall correctly you started the mudslinging with the wake me up line. unless i wasnt one of the apologists you were referring to. i pointed out that what you were talking about had nothing to do with the topic. you keep wanting to move the topic away from what it is.

i agree that it has stirred up passion, but that is a good thing i think. we need a shot of passion in this sport every once in awhile. my only point has been that it seems genuinely unfair to give one track a pass on a false claim, while we all know if it was santa anita, hollywood or belmont they wouldnt be granted the same pass that monmouth is in some peoples eyes.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:03 AM
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What could possibly be polarizing about a track cutting back on the quantity of its product to the benefit of the quality of its product?

Hopefully it's a trend that catches on almost everywhere.

Presque Isle would be better off going back to 25 day racing meets and huge purses. The quality of racing, field sizes, and pool sizes will improve a lot.

Some racing employees will see their work days cut back sharply .. but so what.
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:22 AM
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i didnt know in order to comment on the purse structure i needed to own horses running there. sorry that makes no sense. whats with the emotional outbursts in this thread?
see your post, two posts above this.....perhaps you could be asked the same?

we could all use more civility around here.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:55 PM
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see your post, two posts above this.....perhaps you could be asked the same?

we could all use more civility around here.
please go back through this thread and tell me that im the one being uncivil. ive been called a moron, illiterate and an apologist. for what exactly? if you have read this thread and think im the one being emotional im sort of dumbfounded.
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Old 06-26-2010, 01:04 PM
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please go back through this thread and tell me that im the one being uncivil. ive been called a moron, illiterate and an apologist. for what exactly? if you have read this thread and think im the one being emotional im sort of dumbfounded.
i didn't say you were the one...but i can see where your criticism about emotions could apply to you as well.
just my two cents, which probably isn't even worth that. and like i said, we could all do better.
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Old 06-26-2010, 01:06 PM
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i didn't say you were the one...but i can see where your criticism about emotions could apply to you as well.
just my two cents, which probably isn't even worth that. and like i said, we could all do better.
so we could all do better but i get the lecture? i know im new here but that is bs.
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