Discreet Cat's BC Plans Announced

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Really? Name 'quite a few'... The Swept Overboards and Aldebarrans of this event ALWAYS struggle.

Elmhurst and Lit de Justice are the only Sprint winners who came from anywhere further back than 5th after 2nd call in recent memory.

If you're not in the first 5 in the Sprint by the half mile mark, you're DONE.

Don't disagree on Aldebaran-types, but he wasn't a 6F horse (in fact he had never run at that distance). I have no idea why they made him the favorite, especially considering the venue. The more reasonable favorite would have been Shake You Down in my mind... that being said, in the same race, the 2nd place finisher came from the clouds (and nobody was catching Cajun Beat that day!)

I think you can make the argument that any horse in ANY 6F race that's not within 5 lengths of the lead at 6F is DONE (unless their name is Silky Sullivan or Ghostzapper.)

Perhaps i didn't phrase my statement correctly. I believe if DC went in the sprint, he'd be 4th-6th in the early going- he's got plenty of early pace. What I meant was, I'd prefer a horse with tatical speed and a good closing kick (but proven at 6F) over a one dimensional speedball in the Sprint any day.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

I blew my money on SYD that day. He went to his knees @ the start, was much the best and finshed 2nd to that rat Cajun Beat. I lobbyed against taking over that fake. It was a NO WIN situation and he never ran back to that race and broke down. Trying him on the grass was a pathetic scream for HELP.

ONLY two bets I EVER made on the BC were SYD and GZ.

The 2nd paragraph makes no sense. Read it again carefully.
Don't ever remember Silky sprinting (could be wrong, but I doubt it).

There were a zillion excellent sprinters that won a zillion stakes coming from out of it. I need Bold Brooklynite for this one. His memory far exceeds mine, but he didn't have to deal with 1,000 horses over 50 years.

SYD finished 3rd, an excellent third at that- as you stated, he went to his knees and had to be rushed up- I was lucky enough to catch Cajun Beat on his best day at a huge price, however he never came close to repeating that performance again. Grass was idiotic with him. I wouldn't call him a rat but he certainly never validated that race. I'd call him disappointing, there was plenty of talent there but injuries knocked him out of the game.

Silky sticks in my mind because he won a 6.5F race at SA when he was 46!! lengths out after the first call (according to his PPs). i'd love to see video of it. 2nd paragraph, im saying most horses in 6F races with 2F to go aren't going to come from more than 5 lengths back. The frontrunners just don't tire and slow enough to allow it...

[The Bid]

Steve Margolis did a great job with that horse, for the record hes a heck of a good horseman. Also a very nice guy, although he is a little high strung.

[Linny]

Smile was more of a miler than a sprinter and he won the Sprint.

As far as Silver Train, beating him at a mile is tough but I'd rather try at AQU and BEL.

[Cannon Shell]

Precisionist won the sprint on the cutback from 1 1/4. Also was 1st start since June.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Linny

Smile was more of a miler than a sprinter and he won the Sprint.

As far as Silver Train, beating him at a mile is tough but I'd rather try at AQU and BEL.

Smile would have won 2 breeders cups if it wasn't for Precisionist as he was 2nd to him in the BC at the Big A.