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Scav · #1 10-04-2006, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Solid steady jock in NY. Used to bet him when he was just doing the Florida circuit. Thought he was good enough to come up and he's been real steady.

Good question: Who would you prefer right now-----Corno Velazquez or Eibar Coa? Very close but I like Corno a little bit better. Tough call.

One better, I think he was the jock I used to box with Prado in Maryland when I needed cash about 5 years ago, I could be wrong though

randallscott35 · #2 10-04-2006, 07:20 AM

Kev,
I was more and more impressed with Gomez as the summer went along. Very powerful rider, I prefer that to some of the other methods. Some guys just tend to get more out of their horses. He is one of them. I hope he comes back in the summer again. The best group of jocks ever at one meet in the history of American racing at the Spa this past summer.

GPK · #3 10-04-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Kev,
I was more and more impressed with Gomez as the summer went along. Very powerful rider, I prefer that to some of the other methods. Some guys just tend to get more out of their horses. He is one of them. I hope he comes back in the summer again. The best group of jocks ever at one meet in the history of American racing at the Spa this past summer.

No doubt....It was a pleasure to see them all this summer. I think after all these trainers in NY has seen what GG is capable of, you almost have to consider the majority of his mounts "live". I am in the same boat as Scuds, in that I don't think he does as well on the chalk.

#4 10-04-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Kev,
I was more and more impressed with Gomez as the summer went along. Very powerful rider, I prefer that to some of the other methods. Some guys just tend to get more out of their horses. He is one of them. I hope he comes back in the summer again. The best group of jocks ever at one meet in the history of American racing at the Spa this past summer.

The pissing match between the two titan agents is continuing over to Belmont.
Anderson and Gomez wanna win a riding title in NY VERY badly to have that feather in their cap.
Frieze carries a grudge like noone you ever saw. Prado is simply outriding Gomez again at this meet and Frieze is putting him on a few more claimers than you would expect, because he wants to deny them again.
Once again I make Frieze/Prado a 2-1 favorite over Anderson/Gomez.

GPK · #5 10-04-2006, 08:32 AM

I see Gomez is going back to Cali at the end of this month.

#6 10-04-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

I see Gomez is going back to Cali at the end of this month.

Yeah Kev, and Frieze is working as hard as he can to assure that he goes home without any NY riding titles this year.
The eclipse is gonna come down to Breeders Cup day. The money keeps narrowing between them, and Cup day should decide it.
I imagine the buttons on Friezes cell phone are just about worn out, probably not a single contender that he hasn't called, at least twice.

Cannon Shell · #7 10-04-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Kev,
The best group of jocks ever at one meet in the history of American racing at the Spa this past summer.

Are you sure about this?

randallscott35 · #8 10-04-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Are you sure about this?

Please name a better one....For an entire meet. I'm just agreeing with the general belief, it was written about various places.

blackthroatedwind · #9 10-04-2006, 12:29 PM

I think if you go back to the mid 70s, and before, at Saratoga you would see some great colonies. Don't forget Pincay used to ride in Saratoga, as well as Shoemaker, along with the locals that included Cordero, Velasquez and Baeza. And, I'm guessing if you go farther back there were some great groups.

Not knocking the latest one, as obviously they were deep and, gulp, good....but I think a better assessment would be best overall group in 30 years.

DiscreetCat=Monster · #10 10-04-2006, 02:12 PM

I seen gomez fanicapping and he said they are headed back to cali on the 25th so why would prado's agent bother putting him on more claimers if the guy in 2nd place is leaving?

#11 10-04-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscreetCat=Monster

I seen gomez fanicapping and he said they are headed back to cali on the 25th so why would prado's agent bother putting him on more claimers if the guy in 2nd place is leaving?

Because Belmont ends on October 22nd.
Gomez will ride here until then, which is a Sunday, then leave to go to Cali and start riding on the 25th which is their next racing day on a Wednesday. Any more questions?

Cannon Shell · #12 10-04-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Please name a better one....For an entire meet. I'm just agreeing with the general belief, it was written about various places.

I dont really have the ability to look up jockey lineups per meet but I find that while there were a lot of good riders I cant get myself to believe that the NY riders of the late 60's or California rooms of the 80's weren't as good.
Prado,Velasquez, Coa, Velasquez, Leperaux, Bejerano, Gomez, Castellano are all solid riders but none would be called legendary.

Seattleallstar · #13 10-04-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont really have the ability to look up jockey lineups per meet but I find that while there were a lot of good riders I cant get myself to believe that the NY riders of the late 60's or California rooms of the 80's weren't as good.
Prado,Velasquez, Coa, Velasquez, Leperaux, Bejerano, Gomez, Castellano are all solid riders but none would be called legendary.

yup! only stevens, bailey, russell baze, and day are legendary

Outside of the US--Detorri and Yutaka Take

Cannon Shell · #14 10-04-2006, 02:52 PM

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yup! only stevens, bailey, russell baze, and day are legendary

Outside of the US--Detorri and Yutaka Take

McCarron, Shoemaker, Cordero...

GPK · #15 10-04-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Some trainers get MORE out of horses or a horse than others.

Risders mean NOTHING.

Get it, got it? Good..............

what is a Risder?

Ok....now I know what a rider is

GPK · #16 10-04-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

If that's your best shot I'd stick to golf......................

sorry DP...didn't realize you lack a sense of humor.

SniperSB23 · #17 10-04-2006, 08:04 PM

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sorry DP...didn't realize you lack a sense of humor.

You have to understand, with the nurses restricting his internet time at the nursing home it is very tough to maintain a sense of humor.

GPK · #18 10-04-2006, 08:09 PM

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You have to understand, with the nurses restricting his internet time at the nursing home it is very tough to maintain a sense of humor.

Thanks for clarifying that.

I just need to understand that not everyone has my incredible wit, indelible charm, striking personality, side splitting sense of humor and overall kickass good looks

SniperSB23 · #19 10-04-2006, 08:16 PM

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Thanks for clarifying that.

I just need to understand that not everyone has my incredible wit, indelible charm, striking personality, side splitting sense of humor and overall kickass good looks

I thought Bold Brooklynite was on a top secret mission....