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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Meanwhile ......Chuck who the hell is Daniel Nava and how the hell is he getting time, hitting .444 in left field for the Red Sox without a minor league career of significance?

It is a nice story but a mirage. He isnt a prospect.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is a nice story but a mirage. He isnt a prospect.

He isn't a prospect because prospects are young, developing players who learn the game. This kid is fk'n Roy Hobbs with mini seasons before being quickly moved up through the system to the bigs.

What would he have to hit with 250-300 AB's to exceed your predictions for him.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

He isn't a prospect because prospects are young, developing players who learn the game. This kid is fk'n Roy Hobbs with mini seasons before being quickly moved up through the system to the bigs.

What would he have to hit with 250-300 AB's to exceed your predictions for him.

He is a switch hitter who makes a lot of contact. Based on reports he doesnt seem to be a very good runner or fielder. His AAA numbers minus say 15% would be a pretty good guess. At that level he was a .294/.364/.492. He had a 15/43 BB/K ratio there in 220Ab's. I would say if he hits .270/.320./.400 he will have a nice career as a 4th OF type somewhere but he isnt good enough to stick in Boston.

[docicu3]

I would say if he hits .270/.320./.400 he will have a nice career as a 4th OF type somewhere but he isnt good enough to stick in Boston.[/quote]


At present .360/ .407/ .680 albeit very early but normally rookies don't get off to this kind of start. If he is any where near these numbers in a month JE goes back in center and the kid gets a more extended look in left.

The town loves the kids humility. I agree it's fairy tale but until they find a hole in his swing to exploit the kid contributes nightly and is growing on people and deserves a chance until either he proves he can or can't play at this level.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

At present .360/ .407/ .680 albeit very early but normally rookies don't get off to this kind of start. If he is any where near these numbers in a month JE goes back in center and the kid gets a more extended look in left.

The town loves the kids humility. I agree it's fairy tale but until they find a hole in his swing to exploit the kid contributes nightly and is growing on people and deserves a chance until either he proves he can or can't play at this level.

He can hit that's for sure. But can he hit on a consistent basis and hit with enough power to compensate for his other weaknesses? That is really the big question. It is a great story and though the law of averages probably gets to him at some point, switch hitters who can make contact like he does will always have a job somewhere.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He can hit that's for sure. But can he hit on a consistent basis and hit with enough power to compensate for his other weaknesses? That is really the big question. It is a great story and though the law of averages probably gets to him at some point, switch hitters who can make contact like he does will always have a job somewhere.

The kid has 2 doubles and 3 more RBI's in 3 AB's tonight off Jimenez who has that ERA of 1 something and is now hitting .382 with an ungodly OPS of 1.109 but only for 34 AB's.

Okay I admit it......I have a full blown man crush on this kid. He looks good striking out with how fast he clears his hips with his approach at the plate. Why was it so hard for this kid to get noticed. He may turn into the position player version of Billy Rohr or David Clyde but he is certainly more by the day than expected and it is fun to watch.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

The kid has 2 doubles and 3 more RBI's in 3 AB's tonight off Jimenez who has that ERA of 1 something and is now hitting .382 with an ungodly OPS of 1.109 but only for 34 AB's.

Okay I admit it......I have a full blown man crush on this kid. He looks good striking out with how fast he clears his hips with his approach at the plate. Why was it so hard for this kid to get noticed. He may turn into the position player version of Billy Rohr or David Clyde but he is certainly more by the day than expected and it is fun to watch.

To be fair Jimenez got roughed up pretty good tonight. The guy can hit. But dont forget he is 27 already. It is still ridiculously early to determine how good he will be. Trying to accurately evaluate a guy after less than 40 AB's can be fool's gold. He also is going to have to do something about 1 BB and 8 k's in 31 AB's ratio.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He is a switch hitter who makes a lot of contact. Based on reports he doesnt seem to be a very good runner or fielder. His AAA numbers minus say 15% would be a pretty good guess. At that level he was a .294/.364/.492. He had a 15/43 BB/K ratio there in 220Ab's. I would say if he hits .270/.320./.400 he will have a nice career as a 4th OF type somewhere but he isnt good enough to stick in Boston.

This weeks roto geek Nava article depicting him as the #1 selection on the "All Joy" team.

At least someone else is smitten by this kid who is hitting just North of .300 with a bunch of doubles and RBI's but too many K's

For those interested:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...nd-first-pick/

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

This weeks roto geek Nava article depicting him as the #1 selection on the "All Joy" team.

At least someone else is smitten by this kid who is hitting just North of .300 with a bunch of doubles and RBI's but too many K's

For those interested:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...nd-first-pick/

That was written in January. While Nava even being the bigs is due to an unusually high number of injuries to Red Sox outfielders, it nonetheless looks like a nice call by the author.

[Cannon Shell]

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Docicu special

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/0...medium=twitter

Docicu special

The fairy tale over for now. My boy got a ticket to AAA Pawtucket after the Sox lost Wednesday afternoon. Too many punch outs did him in. At 27 he's not likely done but there aren't many outfielders with doubles power and high OBP in the bigs that stick. There was something clutch about the kid that may yet be something to build on but to be honest the guys who played when he sat didn't impress much either. I'll be surprised if he's had his last AB in the show.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He is a switch hitter who makes a lot of contact. Based on reports he doesnt seem to be a very good runner or fielder. His AAA numbers minus say 15% would be a pretty good guess. At that level he was a .294/.364/.492. He had a 15/43 BB/K ratio there in 220Ab's. I would say if he hits .270/.320./.400 he will have a nice career as a 4th OF type somewhere but he isnt good enough to stick in Boston.

Nava is back from the dead playing left for Boston after being "designated for assignment" at the end of last year.

The kid is essentially a walk on to camp this year and is hitting .180 at Pawtucket after 2 weeks essentially as a DH, a month later he busts the average to .320 and gets called up where he's 8 for 12 OBP his first 12 AB's playing left field like Yaz. The team sucks but this kid is facinating the way he keeps bouncing back from being kicked off the roster....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Nava is back from the dead playing left for Boston after being "designated for assignment" at the end of last year.

The kid is essentially a walk on to camp this year and is hitting .180 at Pawtucket after 2 weeks essentially as a DH, a month later he busts the average to .320 and gets called up where he's 8 for 12 OBP his first 12 AB's playing left field like Yaz. The team sucks but this kid is facinating the way he keeps bouncing back from being kicked off the roster....

He is hoping to become the new Matt Stairs