first samurai - Page 6

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**101** 10-03-2006, 09:31 PM

Also, I think that First Samuri is going to be a wonderful sire who will appeal to many breeders for reasons that have already been stated throughout this thread. I know that if I were a breeder, I would give him some serious consideration. I'm also attracted to Orientate...

These are two lesser priced stallions (compared to Dynaformer, Storm Cat, AP Indy, etc.) who I think are going to make a serious impact on the racing industry.

Cajungator26 · #**102** 10-03-2006, 09:41 PM

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Cajun, will you post up a picture or link to him? I know that you have shown me a picture of him before because he really is a very nice horse, but I want to look at him again.

sumitas · #**103** 10-03-2006, 09:46 PM

you got the right horse cajun ?

this is Austinpower
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd...inpowerjpn.jpg

Cajungator26 · #**104** 10-03-2006, 09:47 PM

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you got the right horse cajun ?

this is Austinpower
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd...inpowerjpn.jpg

She was asking about Mr. Livingston... I talk about him all the time. LOL... I think people get sick of me talking about him.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**105** 10-03-2006, 09:48 PM

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Oh yes, he is really, really nice. He has a beautiful back and hip/croup on him. Beautifully balanced horse. I smile every time I see these guys built this good.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**106** 10-03-2006, 09:49 PM

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She was asking about Mr. Livingston... I talk about him all the time. LOL... I think people get sick of me talking about him.

I don't get sick of you talking about him. He's wonderful

Well, at least in the conformation and pedigree department.

Swap Fliparoo · #**107** 10-03-2006, 09:59 PM

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I like how "uphill" he is. Makes it physically easier for the horse to move off their rear legs.

Florida also has the only son of Sunday Silence on the east coast standing for $2,500 (although he's not a great looking horse.)

Ha ha... an "uphill" horse is a definite beauty mark in my book too

Must be all the dressage shows i've seen

But it would seem to help with racing and staying balanced, too...

S.S. is going to be an absolute BANG-UP sire of sires... i believe 3 or 4 of the top 5 Japanese studs are by him, if I'm not mistaken.

Cajungator26 · #**108** 10-03-2006, 10:02 PM

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Ha ha... an "uphill" horse is a definite beauty mark in my book too

Must be all the dressage shows i've seen

But it would seem to help with racing and staying balanced, too...

S.S. is going to be an absolute BANG-UP sire of sires... i believe 3 or 4 of the top 5 Japanese studs are by him, if I'm not mistaken.

I think you're right. It's a shame he didn't stay here at stud.

Swap Fliparoo · #**109** 10-03-2006, 10:06 PM

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I think you're right. It's a shame he didn't stay here at stud.

I always wonder if he would have had the same success... for some reason his progeny seem best suited to the turf... even tho he was brilliant on dirt. But maybe he'll be the next Mr. P, with sons wowing the world, no matter how they performed on the track... or not, who knows how they'll go over in the U.S. Predicting sire success is the hardest thing ever

jpops757 · #**110** 10-03-2006, 10:08 PM

Does anyone know if the full sybling to either Alex or Smarty has sold this year or not I think he or she will be 2 next year.

Cajungator26 · #**111** 10-03-2006, 10:12 PM

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Does anyone know if the full sybling to either Alex or Smarty has sold this year or not I think he or she will be 2 next year.

Smarty's full yearling sister is in Ireland (or so I read at some point.) Besides Unforgettable Max, Alex doesn't have another full sibling.

paisjpq · #**112** 10-03-2006, 10:12 PM

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how did he break his rib...of course he would run badly because of it...how did they not know he had a broken rib b4 the race (did he do it in the middle of the night when noone was looking?)...to avoid another immediate post, what is this godolphin boycott i've seen a few references to?

the assumption is that he hit the gate on his way out and broke it at the start.

Swap Fliparoo · #**113** 10-03-2006, 10:14 PM

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd...nday%20silence

sons of S.S. standing in the USA... ignore the $15,000 colorado stallion, they only breed him to about two home mares... seen the ads for the new one coming to Adena - looks promising. Wonder what the fee will be.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #**114** 10-03-2006, 10:15 PM

There was a yearling by Northern Afleet that sold for a pretty penny at the last Keeneland sale. Or I think it was the last Keeneland sale? I need to keep track of the young horses that I like better

Anyway, this particular colt was the spitting image of Alex. I bet that Alex was built just like this colt when he was a yearling. I really liked him.

Cajungator26 · #**115** 10-03-2006, 10:31 PM

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http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/isd...nday%20silence

sons of S.S. standing in the USA... ignore the $15,000 colorado stallion, they only breed him to about two home mares... seen the ads for the new one coming to Adena - looks promising. Wonder what the fee will be.

Yeah, I'm dying to know myself...

It appears that he's working at Santa Anita still. He looks nice!

#**116** 10-04-2006, 05:28 AM

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how did he break his rib...of course he would run badly because of it...how did they not know he had a broken rib b4 the race (did he do it in the middle of the night when noone was looking?)...to avoid another immediate post, what is this godolphin boycott i've seen a few references to?

first samurai was fractious in the gate at the bluegrass.

the godolphin boycott....godolphin is tee'd off at coolmore, won't touch their stuff at auction, and outbids them on a regular basis at the sales. why? because they can!

#**117** 10-04-2006, 05:31 AM

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"Elusive Quality, Smarty Jones' sire, has sired 13 other stakes winners from just two crops to race, a remarkable feat considering his stud career started at with a modest $10,000 stud fee his first year. The son of Gone West was the leading first-crop sire in North America for 2002, however, his top earner, Elusive City, was later disqualified from a pair of wins and when his earnings were taken out, Elusive Quality fell to third on the list. "

I knew that it was at one point $10k.

right, but the year that smarty turned three, EQ was already at 50-60k due to his earlier successes.
also, don't forget that storm cat started at 25k and then dropped from that, before hitting the big time. he's been at half a mill so long...seems like no big deal anymore!
the one i thought was CRAZY was ghostzapper starting at 200k. unheard of, and ridiculous IMO. of course not as ridiculous as actually getting it!

Swap Fliparoo · #**118** 10-04-2006, 06:39 AM

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Yeah, I'm dying to know myself...

It appears that he's working at Santa Anita still. He looks nice!

Still working! I didn't know that. Well, his ad was lovely and generated buzz. Can't wait to go to their open house (Nov? Dec?) and check things out if he's there.

Swap Fliparoo · #**119** 10-04-2006, 06:41 AM

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as to this uphill thing cajun refers to, r u talking about the thighs or the way his butt's in the air? as to breeding, on so many levels, u can never go wrong with a smoke horse!

"Uphill" simly means the withers (top of the shoulders) are higher than the croup (top point of the hindquarters). Top that all off w/ an arched neck and a small head... you've got girls swooning.

#**120** 10-04-2006, 07:23 AM

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"Uphill" simly means the withers (top of the shoulders) are higher than the croup (top point of the hindquarters). Top that all off w/ an arched neck and a small head... you've got girls swooning.

i automatically sneer at a horse with a high croup--not to me liking at all. but then i don't like really high, pronounced withers either.
i think vicar is a beauty. anyone else??