Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Reload this Page Question for Arlington fans
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:13 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC View Post
I don't want to put you in a difficult position, but don't you find Calabrese seems to move up trainer's? I don't remember kid Canani ever being so proficient that is until he started training for this stable, claiming or not Calabrese seems to have the 'edge' regardless who trains for him.
You have an edge when your guy is willing to lose to win. Plus they have other "advantages" having nothing to do with substances or devices placed in or on horses. The FCC payroll may include many individuals.


They also are the the big fish in a little pond here. there really is no one to keep them honest. An owner with some cash and desire could give them a run for their money.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:15 PM
MISTERGEE MISTERGEE is offline
Churchill Downs
  
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MIAMI
Posts: 1,978
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
You have an edge when your guy is willing to lose to win. Plus they have other "advantages" having nothing to do with substances or devices placed in or on horses. The FCC payroll may include many individuals.


They also are the the big fish in a little pond here. there really is no one to keep them honest. An owner with some cash and desire could give them a run for their money.
Hello Michael Gill !
__________________
" I may leave here empty handed, but you aren't going anywhere "
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:18 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by MISTERGEE View Post
Hello Michael Gill !
LOL

Gill would make it interesting...

Could see him and frank duking it out in the paddock
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:55 PM
jwkniska's Avatar
jwkniska jwkniska is offline
Fairgrounds
  
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Mt. Prospect, IL (AP)
Posts: 1,578
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
LOL

Gill would make it interesting...

Could see him and frank duking it out in the paddock
That would be better than some of the FCC/Cat fueds!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:15 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
You have an edge when your guy is willing to lose to win. Plus they have other "advantages" having nothing to do with substances or devices placed in or on horses. The FCC payroll may include many individuals.


They also are the the big fish in a little pond here. there really is no one to keep them honest. An owner with some cash and desire could give them a run for their money.
It's guys like this that make bettors look for other options, that is why I like Monmouth so much now, you have a bunch of cheaters and claimers out there. An equal playing field.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:20 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC View Post
It's guys like this that make bettors look for other options, that is why I like Monmouth so much now, you have a bunch of cheaters and claimers out there. An equal playing field.
Agreed. What the track never get is the biggest outfits are usually impediments to their (the tracks) success.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:21 PM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC View Post
It's guys like this that make bettors look for other options, that is why I like Monmouth so much now, you have a bunch of cheaters and claimers out there.
If that's what they are doing...just entering horses at huge discounted prices to win races it's not cheating. At the same time I can see your point as far as wagering...having so many short priced favorites winning that much isn't really what players are looking for.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:24 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
  
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvalier View Post
If that's what they are doing...just entering horses at huge discounted prices to win races it's not cheating.
The info is helpful however, the ol don't take a horse that is once claimed off of Dutrow or Mullins is a very strong deterrent. I shouldn't have to tell any exp handicapper this.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-16-2010, 02:34 PM
Duvalier's Avatar
Duvalier Duvalier is offline
Randwyck
  
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,330
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
They also are the the big fish in a little pond here. there really is no one to keep them honest. An owner with some cash and desire could give them a run for their money.
Looking at a few of the races at Arlington I saw where Midwest Thoroughbreds race there. Seeing them in Tampa and at some of the Mid-Atlantic tracks they seem like they certainly have both the cash and stock to keep the claiming game fairly honest to a certain degree.

Just checked on equibase and they are the leading owner in the nation as far as races won and are ranked fourth in earnings. Are they as active claiming at Arlington as they are at other venues?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-16-2010, 04:44 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvalier View Post
Looking at a few of the races at Arlington I saw where Midwest Thoroughbreds race there. Seeing them in Tampa and at some of the Mid-Atlantic tracks they seem like they certainly have both the cash and stock to keep the claiming game fairly honest to a certain degree.

Just checked on equibase and they are the leading owner in the nation as far as races won and are ranked fourth in earnings. Are they as active claiming at Arlington as they are at other venues?
They do some claiming here but not to the extend to others
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-16-2010, 05:08 PM
clyde's Avatar
clyde clyde is offline
Saratoga
  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Welsh Pride!
Posts: 13,837
Default
Simple Si...whoa!!...I mean PeanutShell,



Did you know approximately 90% of racing horseys have ulcers?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-16-2010, 05:12 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by clyde View Post
Simple Si...whoa!!...I mean PeanutShell,



Did you know approximately 90% of racing horseys have ulcers?
100% of horsey trainers do
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-16-2010, 05:13 PM
clyde's Avatar
clyde clyde is offline
Saratoga
  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Welsh Pride!
Posts: 13,837
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell View Post
100% of horsey trainers do
!!




But a great dodge...fine work.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-17-2010, 02:50 AM
chucklestheclown chucklestheclown is offline
Fairgrounds
  
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,562
Default
Where is Devil May Care these days?
Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:30 AM.

Contact Us - Derby Trail Steve Byk Steve’s Notes DT Stables DT Shoppe Gallery Contact Links Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.