Fleur de Lis and Foster online?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If she wins back to back BC's, regardless of whatever else happens, are you saying she wouldnt win HOY?

Not if Quality Road keeps going the way he is. As Travis said, it's Horse of the Year, not Horse of the Race.

As for Jessica Is Back vs. St Trinians, I don't think either is very good, but seeing the Zenlovers hedging and suddenly hyping up ST like she's Congaree is hilarious.

As for Rachel's race, I just simply disagree that yesterday's field was significantly weaker than the La Troienne or the NOL were. So yeah, winning by 10 1/2 and running faster than the Foster (heh) is more impressive to me than losing to the two mediocrities she had lost to this year. You have a solid point that we won't know truly if she still has it until she has a stiffer challenge, but to say that the FDL wasn't a step forward for her is crazy IMO.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

As for Jessica Is Back vs. St Trinians, I don't think either is very good, but seeing the Zenlovers hedging and suddenly hyping up ST like she's Congaree is hilarious.

I haven't seen anyone on this thread compare St. Trinians to Congaree or any other top flight handicap horse. That being said, to equate beating the Wolfson-trained Jessica Is Back on non-Calder dirt to beating St. Trinians on synthetics is a huge stretch. After all, St. Trinians defeated Life Is Sweet over the same Pro-ride surface on which Life Is Sweet won the BC Distaff, and that performance made her the 3-1 favorite in the Big 'Cap. (If do I recall correctly, however, DrugS was on here extolling the virtues of St. Trinians last winter and fall as a synthetic freak that Zenyatta should legitimately fear.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I haven't seen anyone on this thread compare St. Trinians to Congaree or any other top flight handicap horse. That being said, to equate beating the Wolfson-trained Jessica Is Back on non-Calder dirt to beating St. Trinians on synthetics is a huge stretch. After all, St. Trinians defeated Life Is Sweet over the same Pro-ride surface on which Life Is Sweet won the BC Distaff, and that performance made her the 3-1 favorite in the Big 'Cap. (If do I recall correctly, however, DrugS was on here extolling the virtues of St. Trinians last winter and fall as a synthetic freak that Zenyatta should legitimately fear.)

Beating either of those horses is not an accomplishment that one should cherish.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Beating either of those horses is not an accomplishment that one should cherish.

What are your thoughts on the performance yesterday?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

What are your thoughts on the performance yesterday?

She ran well. Easily defeated weak competition while running faster than the grade 1, older horse stake later in the card. I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't think she ran well or would downgrade her race other than the slugs in against her. As a matter of fact her slugs and Zenyatta's slugs matching up might be an interesting race.