A question for those that do not like Zenyatta...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Not when the "case" they were making was:

"I think bernardini is better than the Zapper...I really do if you look how easily he is winning right now and not even being asked for his best...."

or this one:
"Bernardini would destroy Secretariat and Spectacular Bid."

Two quotes from the first thread....sadly, from two different posters.

this is why i think it's best to wait a few years after a horse has left the scene to start figuring where they stack up. and honestly, to me those comparisons seem laughable-moreso rather than less at this point. you look back at skip away (they were revisiting the late skippy today with his owner on hrtv) and he only grows in stature. bernardini-not so much.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

this is why i think it's best to wait a few years after a horse has left the scene to start figuring where they stack up. and honestly, to me those comparisons seem laughable-moreso rather than less at this point. you look back at skip away (they were revisiting the late skippy today with his owner on hrtv) and he only grows in stature. bernardini-not so much.

Kinda unfair to compare a horse who ran four full seasons to a champion three-year-old who didn't run at two or four, no?

[chucklestheclown]

Are you are the one that erased my post about Kip not caring about his pedigree?

[ateamstupid]

What?

[RockHardTen1985]

Im bad sometimes, but this CLOWN has to be worse then me. Why do you even respond?

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im bad sometimes, but this CLOWN has to be worse then me. Why do you even respond?

Welcome back.
Loser.

[chucklestheclown]

And if you want to make fun of people who have no sense of sentence structure or cannot follow a logical post progression don't look at me

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im bad sometimes, but this CLOWN has to be worse then me. Why do you even respond?

Why do you even interject? That little to do with yourself?
Why don't you start 20 posts about what they said about RHT today?
You are still clueless.

[chucklestheclown]

A few posts were missing from the Rip Kip thread. I was out late but I'm sure one of mine was yanked; I wouldn't have brought it up but someone else said something. Your comments led me to believe you are the one that deleted the posts. Maybe I'll PM you or Kasept about it later.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Kinda unfair to compare a horse who ran four full seasons to a champion three-year-old who didn't run at two or four, no?

er, i wasn't comparing bernardini to skippy. i was saying that in the years since skip away retired, no one lost sight of all he accomplished, and his stature didn't diminish-if anything it grew. bernardini on the other hand....i doubt he gets much mention a few years down the road. he won't be one that later horses get measured by imo.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

er, i wasn't comparing bernardini to skippy. i was saying that in the years since skip away retired, no one lost sight of all he accomplished, and his stature didn't diminish-if anything it grew. bernardini on the other hand....i doubt he gets much mention a few years down the road. he won't be one that later horses get measured by imo.

LOL, that sure sounds like you're comparing them. And again, it's much easier for a horse with four full seasons and 38 starts to have "stature" than it is for one with 8 starts.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

LOL, that sure sounds like you're comparing them. And again, it's much easier for a horse with four full seasons and 38 starts to have "stature" than it is for one with 8 starts.

exactly! i'm just saying that a horse should really do a lot before they start getting a ton of accolades-and i don't think in hindsight that bernardini really deserved a lot of the praise he was given that year.

[hockey2315]

I have much more respect for Bernardini now than I did when he was running.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I have much more respect for Bernardini now than I did when he was running.

Ditto. He was no Curlin but when I hear people praising Summer Turd I want to slit my wrists.
Twice.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

exactly! i'm just saying that a horse should really do a lot before they start getting a ton of accolades-and i don't think in hindsight that bernardini really deserved a lot of the praise he was given that year.

Tough crowd. He was a tremendously fast three-year-old, the best since Point Given. Obviously these days, with so few truly great horses remaining, people are going to go overboard when a really good one comes along. Just look at the hyperbole machine from Rachel and Zenyatta fans. Bernardini was simply brilliant in his brief career.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

exactly! i'm just saying that a horse should really do a lot before they start getting a ton of accolades-and i don't think in hindsight that bernardini really deserved a lot of the praise he was given that year.

i respectfully disagree.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

er, i wasn't comparing bernardini to skippy. i was saying that in the years since skip away retired, no one lost sight of all he accomplished, and his stature didn't diminish-if anything it grew. bernardini on the other hand....i doubt he gets much mention a few years down the road. he won't be one that later horses get measured by imo.

he's still in the very top few of best horses I've seen since starting to follow racing in 1996. (Skip away was the best though)