6/9 (BEL): $930k C/O Discussion/Contest

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Scav

There is a limit to any horse, regardless of how good the juice is. There is no doubt that Rudy has improved this horse, but a 20k claimer at Aqueduct and a starter 25k is a little different then this field. I can see them going 22.1/44.3/57, how does he hold on going that fast going an extra 1/2 furlong?

With all due respect, what could possibly make you think they're going to go that fast?

Prado is one of the least aggressive jockeys in NY, so he'll have to put Be Bullish to an all out drive to set those type of fractions and even then Cornelio is likely to let him go and stalk from the outside.

This is far from a tough field, in fact, one might argue that Brilliant Son and Aquino, who he defeated two back were better (perhaps earlier in their careers) than anything he's facing today. He also buried Have You Ever last time out and that horse was coming off a sharp N2X win on May 1.

All I'm saying is that trying to beat this horse, especially in a race where I Ain't No Saint and Law Enforcement have basically no chance, is not a good idea in my opinion.

NT

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

With all due respect, what could possibly make you think they're going to go that fast?

Prado is one of the least aggressive jockeys in NY, so he'll have to put Be Bullish to an all out drive to set those type of fractions and even then Cornelio is likely to let him go and stalk from the outside.

This is far from a tough field, in fact, one might argue that Brilliant Son and Aquino, who he defeated two back were better (perhaps earlier in their careers) than anything he's facing today. He also buried Have You Ever last time out and that horse was coming off a sharp N2X win on May 1.

All I'm saying is that trying to beat this horse, especially in a race where I Ain't No Saint and Law Enforcement have basically no chance, is not a good idea in my opinion.

NT

I agree with all of these points. To me, it's a two-wide leg, just because of the respect I have for Starforaday and his closing kick beyond six furlongs. If you allow that he may not have liked Gulfstream, he's also the horse to beat on figures.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I agree with all of these points. To me, it's a two-wide leg, just because of the respect I have for Starforaday and his closing kick beyond six furlongs. If you allow that he may not have liked Gulfstream, he's also the horse to beat on figures.

why does law enforcment have no chance hes 8st 3 wins 2 seconds at belmont 3 st 2 wins 1 second at the dist and has faced better all through his life. i think he laughs at these late......

[Arletta]

4) 1,4
5) 4,6,7
6) 6,7,10
7) 4,5,6
8) 1,2,4,5
9) 1,3,7,11,12

$1728

[Gate Dancer]

A little something to do on a Wednesday.................

R4: 1,4,6
R5: 1,6,7
R6: 6,7
R7: 3,4,5
R8: All
R9: 5,9,12

$1620

The rest in a gift certificate, please.............

[MaTH716]

Pre scratches
1,4,6,7
1,6,7
3,6,10
4,5,6
2,4
1,3,5,12
$1728

Good Luck

[Scav]

I see alot of people using the 10 and 11 in the last leg and I just don't see it at all. 10 is 1 for 20 lifetime, and while on paper his two turf starts are ok, they are at Mountaineer which has a comedy turf course and even more comedy competition. The 11's two turf races were at Colonial, no better then Mountaineer and won on a quirky PID surface. I'll agree that Desormeaux getting aboard is interesting.

I think Vicarious is a real interesting horse today. Has back figs, last race was good, Chief on fire last 90 days, gonna get pace, probably third choice and maybe even fourth choice if Ramon D takes money on the jock switch. Under the Rainbow should be tough with post switch, 2nd time blinkers but I think the 6 is a good use also

[hockey2315]

The 5 interests me in the last leg - like the turnback, but the bottom of her pedigree isn't super turfy.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

With all due respect, what could possibly make you think they're going to go that fast?

Prado is one of the least aggressive jockeys in NY, so he'll have to put Be Bullish to an all out drive to set those type of fractions and even then Cornelio is likely to let him go and stalk from the outside.

This is far from a tough field, in fact, one might argue that Brilliant Son and Aquino, who he defeated two back were better (perhaps earlier in their careers) than anything he's facing today. He also buried Have You Ever last time out and that horse was coming off a sharp N2X win on May 1.

All I'm saying is that trying to beat this horse, especially in a race where I Ain't No Saint and Law Enforcement have basically no chance, is not a good idea in my opinion.

NT

It is more about it potentially happening, but your assessment of Prado is a very good one that I did overlook. It isn't like a bug boy is on the horse and going to push. After rewatching the last two races, I agree with you now. I was probably trying to make it more complicated then it should have been. I'll still be two deep if I play, 1-2.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

My winnings from KNS on Tuesday........

1 - 7 - 6/10 - 2 - 4/5 - 3/10 ($16)

4 - 7 - 7/10 - 4/7 - 2 - 7 ($8)

6/7 - 6 - 6 - 1 - 1 - 2 ($4)

[Fulla Sheets]

$2 Pick 6

4th: 1,4
5th: 1,4,6
6th: 6,7,9,10
7th: 2,5,6,7
8th: 1,2
9th: 1,3,9,11,12

2x3x4x4x2x5 = 960 x $2 = $1920

Good Luck

[Scav]

Weather.com

70% chance of rain.....eek!

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Scav

Weather.com

70% chance of rain.....eek!

Forecast calls for the rain to likely start around 2pm. (Thunderstorms NOT part of the equation though now). Since tt would take torrential downpours to affect the turf, you'd think the 4 grass events are safe (4th, 6th, 7th, 9th).

WEATHER UNDERGROUND FOR ELMONT

[3kings]

R4 1,2,4,6
R5 1,4,6,7
R6 6,7,10
R7 5,6
R8 1,2
R9 1,5,11,12
Total $1536

Ticket I might actually play depending on conditions:
1,6/1,4,7/6,10/5,6/2/1,12 $96.00

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Forecast calls for the rain to likely start around 2pm. (Thunderstorms NOT part of the equation though now). Since tt would take torrential downpours to affect the turf, you'd think the 4 grass events are safe (4th, 6th, 7th, 9th).

WEATHER UNDERGROUND FOR ELMONT

9th is 'off the turf' according to YouBet

--Dunbar