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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by HomerS

Why is it "bitching and moaning"?

Understand players have been beaten down forever to shut their mouth and take it. Don't see wondering why a business, especially one hurting bad for cash, would run on Thursday instead of Sunday when their own numbers show they do better on Sunday.

What other business in the country would operate like that?

What other businesses customers would be called bitchers and moaners for wanting to send them their dollars?

Sensitive to the employee issue, but lets get real here. Look at all the recent job cuts there. Where has been the groundswell of concern here or anyplace else for those peoples jobs? But now its give the poor people a rest? Dont think could get people to work some OT or something? And again if they took of Thursday wouldn't be an issue.

Spare us the self pity. I am not particularly concerned for NYRA employees welfare but NYRA management is, which is why this was brought up as a potential reason why they were closed on Sunday. Not because we felt badly for them.

The idea that business on Sunday post-Belmont day is so much better than business on Thursday that all other considerations should be tabled is mistaken. And the irony of people like you always prefacing NYRA with terms like 'cash strapped' ignore the reality that the reason they are cash strapped is that they aren't getting a significant portion of their share of the handle, not that they are making poor management decisions.

I would think that you would be focusing on the final days of Monmouth since you are the Prophet of Doom there as well.

[blackthroatedwind]

Suggesting we should have closed on Thursday and run on Sunday suggests a complete disconnect. It is, quite frankly, nonsensical.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by HomerS

Let me try to be clear here. I would have liked to see them consider running on Sunday. And also running on Thursday.

However, if the reason not to run on Sunday was because of "too much" racing for that week, which is argument people are making- I would have elected to close on a Thursday or some other day and run Sunday- when you get more business.

I'm not trying to make it an either or argument. The people saying they were right not to consider racing on Sunday are.

However, if its going to be an either/or argument then I think the numbers show racing on Sunday is better option then running on Thursday.

It is pretty clear why Sunday was chosen. It became even more obvious because of the once-every-14-years situation of Memorial Day being five days before the Belmont this year...however that was obviously not why we chose to close after the Belmont.

Honestly, considering how many people seem to think there is too much racing, it is amazing that anyone would have any problem with this. But, I guess when the name NYRA is attached there have to be people knocking us. That's fine....at least they are paying attention.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by HomerS

We? Do you work for NYRA?

Will repeat what I told the other poster. Be careful about making assumptions about peoples motives or agenda. Especially when they send money to your business.

People can disagree about something and just have honest difference of opinion. Doesn't mean that they are bashing NYRA, or are bitching and moaning or just another complaining horse player.

If you do work for NYRA would think you would want to hear from all of your customers.

You think the CEO of any business doesnt want customer feedback?

Doesnt mean you have to like it all but if you have any business sense you will be respectful of it. Heck you may even find out they have some good ideas even.

Thanks for the lecture.

I have already responded to six different customer e-mails today...and this is one of my days off. If you don't think people at NYRA are interested in our customers' thoughts you are badly mistaken.

That, however, does not preclude me from finding it puzzling that people have a major issue with Sunday being dark. Certainly everyone won't be 100% happy, and that is understandable, but every decision will never work for everybody. But, this one sure feels like a greatest good.

[Roc525]

Originally Posted by HomerS

Your first sentence tells me you dont get it.

Cannot imagine a spokesperson for a company responding like that to a customer in any business. Not like you are being cursed at, called an idiot, whatever.

Where did I say the people at NYRA are not interested in customer thoughts?

Getting so ridiculous now. Where you have to swear an oath of eternal loyalty to NYRA before posting anything which could be considered unfair by thin skinned employees.

Yeah we get it people have piled on and said unfair things over the years. Get over it. Grow up. Not everyone is out to get you.Your customers are going to ask for things you might not like or be able to provide.

i cant even believe having this discussion. Been Pro NYRA for years, put a lot of money through the windows and have had privledge of talking in person with management like Bill Nader.

Finally guess what. The economy is rough. I work in private sector. I work on my day off too. Not ideal situation but you do what you have to do, especially if in a crisis mode.

Yes, you are.

[richard]

BTW is open to the public and represents nyra very well imo .

[DJARUM]

I forgot the question. Oh, no racing on Sunday after the Belmont. Would have liked to have seen it but, I'll be at the windows on Wednesday. Can't wait!!!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by HomerS

You have made a few personal attacks here. Not sure where they are coming from. I have not engaged in such. And am not engaging in "self pity". Which is it by the way self pity or feeling smarter then everyone else? Make up your mind already.

Seriously can discuss this without the other stuff. Dont see a need for it.

As far as "cash strapped" I am well aware of the reasons for it. That doesnt change my thought on Sunday being a better day then Thursday.

I have been a big NYRA supporter over the years.

They have been held hostage by the politicians and broken promises for years I get it. They were subject to politically motivated witchhunt by Bruno and "Friends of NY Racing". I get that too.

So be careful about what you are assuming my thoughts about NYRA are. The "people like you" comment couldnt be further off base. Why not ask next time instead of assuming? How many times have I prefaced comments about NYRA with cash strapped? Most of my comments on this board have been about NYRA generating a significant amount of handle, and doing so with smaller purses then Monmouth.

Now you are a victim...