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05-28-2010, 11:59 AM
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I don't even know if Azeri should be in.
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05-28-2010, 12:04 PM
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05-28-2010, 12:08 PM
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I can live with it. Point Given not so much. Here is Azeri.
At 4: Won Breeders' Cup Distaff (G1), Santa Margarita H. (G1), Apple Blossom H. (G1), Milady Breeders' Cup H. (G1), Vanity H. (G1), Clement Hirsch H. (G2), Lady's Secret Breeders' Cup H. (G2) 2nd La Canada S. (G2) At 5: Won Apple Blossom H. (G1), Milady Breedrs' Cup H. (G1), Vanity H. (G1), Clement Hirsch H. (G2) 2nd Lady's Secret Breeders' Cup H. (G2) At 6: Won Apple Blossom H. (G1), Go For Wand H. (G1), Spinster S. (G1) 2nd Humana Distaff H. (G1), Personal Ensign H. (G1)
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05-28-2010, 12:12 PM
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05-28-2010, 12:16 PM
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05-28-2010, 12:30 PM
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Azeri is 100% deserving.
Point Given retired after the Travers and never even faced old horses. Give me a break. I don't deny he is absolutely talented enough to belong....but that isn't the criteria....unless I missed it and Danzig is in the HOF.
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05-28-2010, 04:55 PM
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i agree on all points. point given didn't do enough to get in, it's ridiculous that he was even on the ballot.
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06-01-2010, 09:14 AM
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05-28-2010, 06:49 PM
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05-28-2010, 08:18 PM
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05-28-2010, 10:01 PM
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riboletta had some good races, but her resume doesn't stack up to azeri's. i think she had half the grade one wins that azeri garnered. azeri had one heck of a win streak going as well. no question azeri belongs.
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05-29-2010, 09:15 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...aul&id=5231069 Speaking of the Hall of Fame, here's an article talking about Billy Turner's absence. Here's an interview with Billy: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/spor...5/post_24.html
I've heard his drinking discussed in the past with regards to Seattle Slew and the relationship with Slew's owners. I thought some of you might have a more informed opinion about how it affected him as far his HOF status is concerned, if it did at all. Or was it more that losing Slew affected things? They seem to be intertwined a bit. I just know given what it takes for a horse who's good enough to with the Triple Crown to actually do it, it's no small thing to be their trainer, and surely it's grounds to get him on the ballot at the very least.
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06-04-2010, 03:09 AM
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The Baseball Hall of Fame and Pro Football Hall of Fame have lots of guys as members who were not "perfect citizens" for all the years of their lives. But they played baseball, or football, well. One of only two Triple Crown winning trainers in the past 1/3+ of century gets him in on my vote. I LOVE Seattle Slew. I attended his Preakness, and his Belmont. I was maybe a bit underwhelmed of Seattle Slew's accomplishment in the day because I had an immediate and real time comparison to Secretariat....and then Affirmed. But, after 34 seasons of racing and Triple Crown misses, I know Billy Turner had to have had a part in what made Seattle Slew special and successful.
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