Obama's Oil Spill

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

Again, Dell, separate out the voices in your head from me

I'm against putting more into additional oil drilling. I want alternative forms of energy - wind & geothermal. I don't care for nuclear, there are safer ways to make steam. In the US we have no strong impetus to go alternative routes.

That's exactly the point...less dependancy on oil makes this all unnecessary

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

That's exactly the point...less dependancy on oil makes this all unnecessary

Less dependence on oil is a pipedream. Pardon the pun

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Less dependence on oil is a pipedream. Pardon the pun

I can (in Florida...not sure how this would work in other parts) convert my residence to complete solar for 150K... AND store enough energy to SELL energy BACK to Progress Energy (our local electric company).... yet I PAY my electric company to cool my house BY AN OIL FIRED ENERGY PLANT... You hear nothing about this... From the same people in charge getting their pockets lined by big oil....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I can (in Florida...not sure how this would work in other parts) convert my residence to complete solar for 150K... AND store enough energy to SELL energy BACK to Progress Energy (our local electric company).... yet I PAY my electric company to cool my house BY AN OIL FIRED ENERGY PLANT... You hear nothing about this... From the same people in charge getting their pockets lined by big oil....

Wouldnt 150k be considerd a little pricey for the avg American?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wouldnt 150k be considerd a little pricey for the avg American?

40 inch Plasma TV's were 8K 10 years ago... Of course Solar has been around for decades and Big Oil has squelched any advancements so 150K to run AND sell energy is where we are now....

Of course amortized over 15 years ( given the typical 30 year mortgage) along with the (Obama GREEN) feeble tax incentives, you still would not only be living energy independent, but would actually be making money from your residence...

The last thing they need to hear.

Until Obama sells the Sun.

to BP.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

40 inch Plasma TV's were 8K 10 years ago... Of course Solar has been around for decades and Big Oil has squelched any advancements so 150K to run AND sell energy is where we are now....

Of course amortized over 15 years ( given the typical 30 year mortgage) along with the (Obama GREEN) feeble tax incentives, you still would not only be living energy independent, but would actually be making money from your residence...

The last thing they need to hear.

All very true but doesnt change the fact that our dependence on oil is not ever going to be significantly decreased in our lifetimes without some unforseen technical advance. The fact that the oil barons have the most money isnt going to change.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

All very true but doesnt change the fact that our dependence on oil is not ever going to be significantly decreased in our lifetimes without some unforseen technical advance. The fact that the oil barons have the most money isnt going to change.

I would contend that global development (India, China, Vietnam, etc) is the source of strain on global oil resources that we are experiencing relative to our past.
And perhaps it is all relative; we are using less, but the world is using more. In the 70's and 80's we were sucking it down like water. But then again "Made in the USA" meant something and now it means nothing.... In the face of this, I really think we have definitely made drastic improvements relative to the rest of the planet. Hydrogen fuel cells, solar, wind... it is the only answer - and it MUST occur in our time. The only reason it won't is because it has become a multi-billion dollar cottage to discourage it's development.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Less dependence on oil is a pipedream. Pardon the pun

Disagree

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Disagree

You can disagree all you want but all those cars need oil and I don't see that changing in our lifetime. But what do you want from me, I am a neanderthal who hates birds and trees, defends the NBA's officiating from rabid (disillusioned?) Celtics fans and shuns public transportation...