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Old 05-15-2010, 05:56 PM
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LOL. Gomez is the best jock in the country, and he is going to have another year other jocks can only dream of. LAL will get beat somewhere and dont be surprised if Gomez is the one that beats him.
Best jock in country ? He wasn't even the best in So-Cal.

Not sure if he is top 3. Now that he isnt riding in So-Cal vs a below average colony he won't be getting all the best mounts. He is gonna have quite a battle this summer at MTH and Sar.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:40 PM
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Best jock in country ? He wasn't even the best in So-Cal.

Not sure if he is top 3. Now that he isnt riding in So-Cal vs a below average colony he won't be getting all the best mounts. He is gonna have quite a battle this summer at MTH and Sar.
I would love to know who you think is the best in the country. Ramon Dominguez? Gomez is the best money rider out there and you knock him for two unlucky rides on LAL? Gomez doesnt ride in bulk but his win % is way above average so he may or may not win riding titles as much as Ramon or Bejarano.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:44 PM
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I would love to know who you think is the best in the country. Ramon Dominguez? Gomez is the best money rider out there and you knock him for two unlucky rides on LAL? Gomez doesnt ride in bulk but his win % is way above average so he may or may not win riding titles as much as Ramon or Bejarano.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:48 PM
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Ramon is close.. Bailey was simply way smarter then most and could read a racing forum
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:52 PM
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Ramon is close.. Bailey was simply way smarter then most and could read a racing forum
...and he could also read the racing form too.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:05 PM
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he may have a comeback in him
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:50 PM
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I was refering to active jockeys but I agree about Bailey being one of the best money riders.
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Old 05-15-2010, 09:28 PM
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Old 05-15-2010, 09:35 PM
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:07 PM
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I would love to know who you think is the best in the country. Ramon Dominguez? Gomez is the best money rider out there and you knock him for two unlucky rides on LAL? Gomez doesnt ride in bulk but his win % is way above average so he may or may not win riding titles as much as Ramon or Bejarano.


Ramon is tons better than Gomez. Right now I feel he is the best in the country hands down. Anyone watching racing the last 2 yrs can see that. Bejarano is another who is better. If guys like Castellano and Lezcano got the mounts Gomez is handed they would easily put up the numbers he has "money wise". Gomez is a good rider no doubt.....but he is by no means better than the guys I just mentioned. One could also argue that Leparoux and Rosario are right up there with Gomez......
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:45 PM
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Best jock in country ? He wasn't even the best in So-Cal.

Not sure if he is top 3. Now that he isnt riding in So-Cal vs a below average colony he won't be getting all the best mounts. He is gonna have quite a battle this summer at MTH and Sar.
Gomez doesn't care about being leading rider at a meet. That's not his main goal. He doesn't want to ride 8 horses a day. His goal is to be leading rider in the country in terms of money won. He has done that the last 4 years in a row.

Not only that, but he's not going to be the leading rider at that many meets when he's constantly travelling and missing days. I don't know how you could hold that against him. He's won the national riding title 4 years in a row. A guy can't do much better than that.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:51 PM
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Today, Baffert, effectively, pulled Gomez' pants down and paddled him like a (Catholic) school kid. Well deserved, IMO. I'm sure Gomez will dismiss this as easily as he does his MANY blown rides. Sure
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:16 PM
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Gomez doesn't care about being leading rider at a meet. That's not his main goal. He doesn't want to ride 8 horses a day. His goal is to be leading rider in the country in terms of money won. He has done that the last 4 years in a row.

Not only that, but he's not going to be the leading rider at that many meets when he's constantly travelling and missing days. I don't know how you could hold that against him. He's won the national riding title 4 years in a row. A guy can't do much better than that.
He is definitely a very good rider. My point is I don't think talent wise he is any better than the jocks I mentioned a few posts ago.

As far as leading money rider in 2010? Well....getting a pick up ride at the last second in some cheap claiming race at HP just so he could beat Leparoux while Leparoux was out of the country was very weak on his and Ron Anderson's part. Pretty sad in fact. But it didn't matter as the Eclipse voters saw past their bs and gave the award to Leparoux who deserved it.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:42 PM
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Congrats to Martin. The more I read / hear about him, the more respect I have for him.

Seems like a really decent type... good for him.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:45 PM
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Hold on did someone dis Calvin and praise Martin? Are you serious? Martin has many more years of horrible rides. The Preakness is the Shemp of the triple crown. Lets not go overboard with praise just yet.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:50 PM
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Hold on did someone dis Calvin and praise Martin? Are you serious? Martin has many more years of horrible rides. The Preakness is the Shemp of the triple crown. Lets not go overboard with praise just yet.

Martin has only been riding for 5 yrs and he has already a pretty decent resume. He is probably not the best jock out there but he did deliver today and praise is well desereved for his ride today.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:54 PM
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Hold on did someone dis Calvin and praise Martin? Are you serious? Martin has many more years of horrible rides. The Preakness is the Shemp of the triple crown. Lets not go overboard with praise just yet.

Borel clearly can't ride outside of Churchill. He is lost at every other track. Too bad the jocks that ride down at CD aren't more like Cordero (you know....a jock who wouldn't let him get away with his rail riding).....if they were he wouldn't win nearly as many races.

It's insane how a guy can win so much at one track and then not do a thing anywhere else.
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Old 05-15-2010, 11:50 PM
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Borel clearly can't ride outside of Churchill. He is lost at every other track. Too bad the jocks that ride down at CD aren't more like Cordero (you know....a jock who wouldn't let him get away with his rail riding).....if they were he wouldn't win nearly as many races.

It's insane how a guy can win so much at one track and then not do a thing anywhere else.
Lucky for Calvin it's at a major track with arguably the biggest race in N.A.
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:54 PM
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Hold on did someone dis Calvin and praise Martin? Are you serious? Martin has many more years of horrible rides. The Preakness is the Shemp of the triple crown. Lets not go overboard with praise just yet.
He had the best horse and sat the perfect trip. I didn't see what was so great about the ride either except that he didnt f it up which is better than a lot of them can say.

Baffert goes through a lot of jockeys first call. I wouldnt get too comfortable if I were Martin.
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Old 05-15-2010, 11:01 PM
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He had the best horse and sat the perfect trip. I didn't see what was so great about the ride either except that he didnt f it up which is better than a lot of them can say.

Baffert goes through a lot of jockeys first call. I wouldnt get too comfortable if I were Martin.
I am surprised John Velasquez did not get the mount for either Aikenite or
LAL. Velasquez is first call for Pletcher and has ridden for Baffert east side on few occasions
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