Keeneland Fall Meet - Poly, Trakus and Beer. OH MY!

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Bingo!

I was starting to think I was wrong about the Poly and then took one look at the entries and results from KY Cup Day and knew that I was right all along. Those results make no sense and Keeneland will be a blender this Meet...

Beautiful Bets!! LOL!!!
How about Flints horse in the juvy fillies who couldn't even go 5 furlongs before and then crushes them going two turns?
As far as Ghetto goes, I mean lets be honest, a horse like that breaking from the outside is hard to even fathom.
And check out the chart calls that day, 3 times, and this is RARE for a chartcaller to say, the chart said lost footing next to the horses running line.
Many horses simply can't grab it.
Wagering on races conducted over poly is a fools errand.
Ball Four? I mean, please. I can see how he could be played as a poly specialist in that race but no way would he even hit the board if the race was on dirt.
I'll let others play Keeneland, no thanks for me. I have zero interest in playing a surface in which Beautiful Bets can beat a field like that going two turns.

[Gander]

Ball Four would have never won had Premium Tap not almost fallen down. He would have probably run 2nd in light of that stupid ride by Leparoux on Perfect Drift. So I dont blame Ball Four winning on the polycrap, rather the dumb race riding by two guys who are supposed to be great jockeys (Leparoux and Desormeaux).

Originally Posted by oracle80

Beautiful Bets!! LOL!!!
How about Flints horse in the juvy fillies who couldn't even go 5 furlongs before and then crushes them going two turns?
As far as Ghetto goes, I mean lets be honest, a horse like that breaking from the outside is hard to even fathom.
And check out the chart calls that day, 3 times, and this is RARE for a chartcaller to say, the chart said lost footing next to the horses running line.
Many horses simply can't grab it.
Wagering on races conducted over poly is a fools errand.
Ball Four? I mean, please. I can see how he could be played as a poly specialist in that race but no way would he even hit the board if the race was on dirt.
I'll let others play Keeneland, no thanks for me. I have zero interest in playing a surface in which Beautiful Bets can beat a field like that going two turns.

I find it just as easy to handicap PolyTrack than the dirt at Turfway. Now, I didn't have Ball Four and he won based on luck. Perfect Drift and Premium Tap had awful trips. But both seem to like the surface, they got horrible trips. And when it comes to Juve races, well you just never know. Remember Wilko????

Originally Posted by Cardus

While I agree that it is foolish to wager on Polytrack without seeing a horse's form over it, I used Ball Four (but did not single him) in the NTRA Pick Four precisely for that reason. It made sense to include him. Someone asked me who I liked for a win bet, and I said that you simply cannot single one horse, particularly when you could not forecast how the big names in the race would respond to it. And I'm not sure how well workouts over Polytrack will help with handicapping, either. How many times do we hear trainers say that their turf horses work great over the main track before entering them in big Grade One races on dirt? Then, faced with competition and pace, they forget to change leads or quit when being pelted with sand.

I'll watch Keeneland's Polytrack races from the sidelines. There is more than enough top notch turf action to keep me occupied.

Enjoy the Keeneland turf racing.

Flints filly and BB were about impossible to play, or even include.