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Old 11-30-2009, 06:33 PM
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Why is that more likely? Blame is very serious.... Hes better then the Kentucky Derby winner, he has been better then him for about 5 months. Hes better then the Macho Again, Einstein and Bullsbay and they are the 3 best older dirt horses we had this year. With Summer Bird being injured and Quality Road having issues, Blame is right at the top of the handicap division next year.
Well said.

It's easy to poke fun at Stall because he's had a couple of horses who looked like they might be good. Fact of the matter is that Blame has already proven he's a good horse.

I never really understood why everyone thought Ketchikan was so highly regarded as he never really accomplished anything before getting hurt. My Pal Charlie showed up for the Super Derby as a N1X winner and he retired as an N1X winner and Super Derby winner. He had potential but never realized it and that, I think, is more the exception than the rule with Stall.

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Old 11-30-2009, 08:41 PM
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Why is that more likely? Blame is very serious.... Hes better then the Kentucky Derby winner, he has been better then him for about 5 months. Hes better then the Macho Again, Einstein and Bullsbay and they are the 3 best older dirt horses we had this year. With Summer Bird being injured and Quality Road having issues, Blame is right at the top of the handicap division next year.
Wow! You havn't watched many races this year.
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Old 11-30-2009, 08:44 PM
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Wow! You havn't watched many races this year.
Maybe you haven't. He just beat all of them on Friday.

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Old 11-30-2009, 09:08 PM
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Maybe you haven't. He just beat all of them on Friday.

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lol this guy is seriously a joke.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:13 PM
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Maybe you haven't. He just beat all of them on Friday.

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I'm referring to Macho, Einstein, and Bullsbay as the three best older dirt horses this year. I guess 1 out of 3 is good enough for you guys.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:19 PM
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I'm referring to Macho, Einstein, and Bullsbay as the three best older dirt horses this year. I guess 1 out of 3 is good enough for you guys.
Who was better than those three, or two of those three, as DIRT horses this year?

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Old 11-30-2009, 09:32 PM
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Well said.

It's easy to poke fun at Stall because he's had a couple of horses who looked like they might be good. Fact of the matter is that Blame has already proven he's a good horse.

I never really understood why everyone thought Ketchikan was so highly regarded as he never really accomplished anything before getting hurt. My Pal Charlie showed up for the Super Derby as a N1X winner and he retired as an N1X winner and Super Derby winner. He had potential but never realized it and that, I think, is more the exception than the rule with Stall.

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Ketchikan was a good horse with a lot of potential. In the Louisiana Derby, he made a premature move on the first turn, set splits of 23.61, 46.53, 1:10.88 before yielding to Circular Quay in the stretch. It was huge effort by Ketchikan in only his fourth career start. In his prior effort, he easily won a Nw1x mile allowance and got a 99 BSF. Unfortunately, he was never the same after being injured while preparing for the Arkansas Derby.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:43 PM
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Ketchikan was a good horse with a lot of potential. In the Louisiana Derby, he made a premature move on the first turn, set splits of 23.61, 46.53, 1:10.88 before yielding to Circular Quay in the stretch. It was huge effort by Ketchikan in only his fourth career start. In his prior effort, he easily won a Nw1x mile allowance and got a 99 BSF. Unfortunately, he was never the same after being injured while preparing for the Arkansas Derby.

OMG HE WAS HORRIBLE.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:55 PM
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OMG HE WAS HORRIBLE.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:47 PM
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It's a sad state of affairs if this horse is considered a top 5 contender next year. Just saying.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:12 PM
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It's a sad state of affairs if this horse is considered a top 5 contender next year. Just saying.
But he is.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:33 PM
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It's a sad state of affairs if this horse is considered a top 5 contender next year. Just saying.

Coach, what has this horse done wrong?

FLORIDA CRUSHES BAMA ON SATURDAY, I HAVE A REVERSE W/ FLORIDA AND AN OPEN REVERSE I PLAN ON USING FLORIDA ON.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:53 AM
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I'm expecting Blame to make it clear he's a major player in the handicap division on Saturday.

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Old 05-13-2010, 11:00 AM
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I'm expecting Blame to make it clear he's a major player in the handicap division on Saturday.

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Disagree. This not an easy group 1st of a layoff at all. A poor bet to win.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:15 AM
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Disagree. This not an easy group 1st of a layoff at all. A poor bet to win.
If it was on the inner track I could see your point. Who exactly do you think is good in this race?

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Old 05-13-2010, 11:18 AM
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If it was on the inner track I could see your point. Who exactly do you think is good in this race?

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Understatement ran a negative number in Maryland before. I'm throwing out Bullsbay's last as well. Nothing wrong with Indian Dance....I will be playing a spread and not using Blame at all in Pick 4s.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:23 AM
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Understatement ran a negative number in Maryland before. I'm throwing out Bullsbay's last as well. Nothing wrong with Indian Dance....I will be playing a spread and not using Blame at all in Pick 4s.
Good luck, I think you'll lose, but if we all agreed all the time this game would be no fun at all.

I think Understatement is finished and was an inner track wonder, Bullsbay coming back in two weeks off of a horrible effort is a big no thank you. Indian Dance is moderately interesting but if you believe he's going to get the setup he needs then you have to believe Blame is as well.

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Old 05-13-2010, 11:26 AM
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Good luck, I think you'll lose, but if we all agreed all the time this game would be no fun at all.

I think Understatement is finished and was an inner track wonder, Bullsbay coming back in two weeks off of a horrible effort is a big no thank you. Indian Dance is moderately interesting but if you believe he's going to get the setup he needs then you have to believe Blame is as well.

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If Beattie gets her stuff into her horse it could win....Blame is no single.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:28 AM
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Understatement ran a negative number in Maryland before. I'm throwing out Bullsbay's last as well. Nothing wrong with Indian Dance....I will be playing a spread and not using Blame at all in Pick 4s.
Understatment stinks...horse falls flat on his face anywhere outside of the inner...no excuses for Blame to lose this race. Bullsbay isn't much. Only horse I would think who can beat Blame if Blame falters is actually Flying Private who actually looks to have come back in one piece and hasn't been awful and actually looks to get his setup on Saturday. Should be an easy 3 spot in multis with Blame, Flying Private, and a little Indian Dance.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:30 AM
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Understatment stinks...horse falls flat on his face anywhere outside of the inner...no excuses for Blame to lose this race. Bullsbay isn't much. Only horse I would think who can beat Blame if Blame falters is actually Flying Private who actually looks to have come back in one piece and hasn't been awful and actually looks to get his setup on Saturday. Should be an easy 3 spot in multis with Blame, Flying Private, and a little Indian Dance.
Sorry Understatement does not stink. I think he runs big on Saturday. Yes he is an inner monster. The bull ring of CT does nothing for me, I can throw that out with impunity.
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