136th Kentucky Derby (PP's)

[dalakhani]

Conveyance drew nice. Lets just say he relaxes a little. I don't see any horse in here that is much better.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Conveyance drew nice. Lets just say he relaxes a little. I don't see any horse in here that is much better.

Agree as well. Turning for home, in the slop, maybe he gets away.

[randallscott35]

SC will be a lot higher than 5-1. Battaglia is smoking something with that line. My guess. 10-1 out there.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

SC will be a lot higher than 5-1. Battaglia is smoking something with that line. My guess. 10-1 out there.

I don't think he'll be that high, but yeah, it seems like Battaglia didn't have a contingency plan for the favorites drawing inside and out. I also doubt LaL will be lower than 4-1.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I don't think he'll be that high, but yeah, it seems like Battaglia didn't have a contingency plan for the favorites drawing inside and out. I also doubt LaL will be lower than 4-1.

At least he's not calling the race. I think Ice Box drew ok if Lezcano can not get pinned into the turn....LAL below 4-1 I think.

[lemoncrush]

With Sidney's past problems stumbling at the gate, the 20 spot actualy ensures he doesn't get sandwiched and left without any hope to recover.
He still has got a lot of work to do, but he has enough tactical speed where I think he can overcome the wide post.
Lookin at Lucky...I have my doubts.

[randallscott35]

AL's odds are screwed up as well. He won't be 30-1 in there IMO.

[Patrick333]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

With Sidney's past problems stumbling at the gate, the 20 spot actualy ensures he doesn't get sandwiched and left without any hope to recover.
He still has got a lot of work to do, but he has enough tactical speed where I think he can overcome the wide post.
Lookin at Lucky...I have my doubts.

I agree with you. If he can handle an off-track I think he'll do fine.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

With Sidney's past problems stumbling at the gate, the 20 spot actualy ensures he doesn't get sandwiched and left without any hope to recover.
He still has got a lot of work to do, but he has enough tactical speed where I think he can overcome the wide post.
Lookin at Lucky...I have my doubts.

You know everone seems to be talking about Sidney's Candys tactical speed and maybe his ability to rate. But he has been first at every call so far this year. Maybe he can, but it seems like alot to ask for by him breaking from the 20 hole. Not to mention Talamo not panicing if things don't go his way early. I'm not sure he has that kind of Big Brown move in him.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

You know everone seems to be talking about Sidney's Candys tactical speed and maybe his ability to rate. But he has been first at every call so far this year. Maybe he can, but it seems like alot to ask for by him breaking from the 20 hole. Not to mention Talamo not panicing if things don't go his way early. I'm not sure he has that kind of Big Brown move in him.

He wasn't going to win this race on the lead. Maybe he can rate, maybe he can't, but he had no shot to wire the field IMO, and this pretty much ensures that Talamo won't try to.

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

You know everone seems to be talking about Sidney's Candys tactical speed and maybe his ability to rate. But he has been first at every call so far this year. Maybe he can, but it seems like alot to ask for by him breaking from the 20 hole. Not to mention Talamo not panicing if things don't go his way early. I'm not sure he has that kind of Big Brown move in him.

He may or may not be able to settle for Joe, but i know this breaking from the 20 hole, he cannot afford that stumble like he had in the SA Derby, he nearly went to his nose.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

You know everone seems to be talking about Sidney's Candys tactical speed and maybe his ability to rate. But he has been first at every call so far this year. Maybe he can, but it seems like alot to ask for by him breaking from the 20 hole. Not to mention Talamo not panicing if things don't go his way early. I'm not sure he has that kind of Big Brown move in him.

I think Big Brown could have won that derby from any post position, but without Eskenderya, there isn't anyone good enough in Saturday's field to overcome a bad break or get shuffled too far back early.
I'm not worried much about Talamo. He's run in plenty of big races before.
My biggest worry with Sidney is the possibility of running on an off track for the first time.