Perfect Drift

pmayjr · #1 09-30-2006, 05:40 PM

We'll see how human Leparoux is when he loses his bug... I agree- He's nothin specil. But I like him better than some of the other big names out there. He's a mid-pack guy. A Cornholio Velasquez type lol.

Buffymommy · #2 09-30-2006, 07:01 PM

I wouldn't throw out the win bet on Drifty. He definately has a lot left in the tank after today. Today was more like a workout. I really liked this as a prep for him.

Gotta go help a friend. Chat at you guys later!

jpops757 · #3 09-30-2006, 07:07 PM

P D is money machine. Dances eery dance and is always a threat. Just call him Mr congeniality of horseracing. He will never wear the crown but will be able to buy anything he wants.

2Hot4TV · #4 09-30-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757

P D is money machine. Dances eery dance and is always a threat. Just call him Mr congeniality of horseracing. He will never wear the crown but will be able to buy anything he wants.

I would love to own that horse. They need to find a track that has the finish line on the turn.

todko · #5 09-30-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

I wouldn't throw out the win bet on Drifty. He definately has a lot left in the tank after today. Today was more like a workout. I really liked this as a prep for him.

Gotta go help a friend. Chat at you guys later!

My sentiments exactly. Being there today live -- like I was when PD won 3 years ago -- the horse looks ageless. He could very well win at CD. He was striding out at the wire after running into a wall. He had a lot of run left. It was a solid race, good fractions, good final time on the poly.

Swap Fliparoo · #6 09-30-2006, 09:17 PM

PD looked amazing today, just like at CD in the Foster - I was there for both, and both times he came barelling down the stretch with a great stride. Last time he hung when he got the lead, this time he couldn't make up the ground. But both times he kicked impressively and looked like the winner in the stretch. I cheer for him out of shock as if he's the winner. Hope he finishes top-3 in the Classic, I would love to see him keep in "his" top form...

King Glorious · #7 09-30-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

I wouldn't throw out the win bet on Drifty. He definately has a lot left in the tank after today. Today was more like a workout. I really liked this as a prep for him.

Gotta go help a friend. Chat at you guys later!

U wouldn't toss him from the win end? A horse that has won exactly ONE grade one race in six years of racing? A horse that finds a way to lose every single time it appears that he's going to win? Not knocking the horse as a hard trier and a very consistent type but let's be real here. In the past three years, he's won TWO races, an allowance and the grade two Washington Park Hcp. Include him in all the exactas and tris that u want to but putting him in the win spot is throwing away money. I don't care how much trouble he had (doesn't he always have an excuse?), u have to be able to beat Ball Four if u expect that u are going to be able to beat the real heavyweights in the game. Especially considering that it was Ball Four's first race in five months and he was winning his first career graded stakes race.

blackthroatedwind · #8 09-30-2006, 10:29 PM

KG -

There is a massive disconnect around here concerning Perfect Drift and his actual ability. When he runs sixth in the BC Classic he will be hailed as an uncrowned champion.

King Glorious · #9 09-30-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

KG -

There is a massive disconnect around here concerning Perfect Drift and his actual ability. When he runs sixth in the BC Classic he will be hailed as an uncrowned champion.

It's like that on every forum. I mean, I understand that they love the horse. Hell, I've grown to respect him myself as a horse that has to be considered in any exotic wager. But I always save myself a little money by never including him in the win spot. I think people have gotten so familiar with him because he's been around so long that they forget the reality of the horse.....he doesn't like to win.

blackthroatedwind · #10 09-30-2006, 10:38 PM

He's an excellent and admirable horse but he isn't nearly good enough to beat top horses anymore...period. He's still good enough to pick up the pieces against decent horses but when thrown to the wolves in five weeks he will get his head handed to him.

Danzig · #11 10-01-2006, 06:11 AM

what is so ironic to me.....invasor gets questioned on who's he beat, as does lava man, and even bernardini.....2 losses the entire Year between the three of them--yet constantly, who'd they beat, who'd they beat. like a damn parrot squawking or something.
than you have perfect drift....he gets anointed as some kind of spectacular noble creature--hell, who has HE beaten? nobody. it's crazy. winners all over, and so many are killing themselves trying to outdo others with their praise for this sainted horse.

gah....

and now i'll probably get leaped on for not praising this super horse. whatever...he's a good horse. but please gimme a break.

Round Pen · #12 10-01-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

We'll see how human Leparoux is when he loses his bug... I agree- He's nothin specil. But I like him better than some of the other big names out there. He's a mid-pack guy. A Cornholio Velasquez type lol.

Come on Guys keep up with the times he has Already lost his Bug

paisjpq · #13 10-01-2006, 08:49 AM

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Come on Guys keep up with the times he has Already lost his Bug

I was gonna post that last night but was too lazy to log in again...thanks RP

pmayjr · #14 10-01-2006, 04:36 PM

My bad... About not knowing he lost his bug.

As I said before, I don't think the way Leparoux rode yesterday made a difference. P. Drift was blocked, but was the better move to take 'Drift 10-wide to get around 'em? You hope something opens up so you don't exert that energy taking him way outside.

As I said in the original post, the race yesterday was eerily similar to P. Drift's BC Classic run last year. Blocked tilat least mid-stretch, and then he came with a big run.

So I'm not tyring to take too much away from Ball 4, but the fact remains he had a perfect trip, while 'Drift and Preimum Tap had horrible trips. I'm convinced they both beat Ball 4 with betetr trips. I hope I can get 15-1 on Perfect Drift in the Classic.

blackthroatedwind · #15 10-01-2006, 04:41 PM

15-1?

This is not meant as a criticism of Perfect Drift but I would give you 15-1 for as much money as you could possibly raise. He will be upwards of 30-1 in the Classic.

Gander · #16 10-01-2006, 04:44 PM

I think it absolutely made the difference. Now we know that Premium Tap would have won had he gotten through, and we also know that Kent D is one of the few jockeys out there that can find trouble in a short field on the dirt with the best horse. Thats moot. Kent did what he does best- find a way to lose.

That said, Perfect Drift was easily the 2nd best horse in the race and Leparoux did all he could to ensure he couldnt take proper advantage of a bonehead ride by giving another bonehead ride.

pmayjr · #17 10-01-2006, 05:22 PM

lol well said Gander.

Blackthroat, I hope you're right about P. Drift's odds.

Dunbar · #18 10-03-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

lol well said Gander.

Blackthroat, I hope you're right about P. Drift's odds.

Blackthroat is almost certainly right. PD's future odds for the Classic are 44-1 at Pinnacle and 50-1 at VIP/Gameday. I don't think you have to worry about getting 15-1 on raceday. It'll probably be over 30-1, unless there are major defections from the lineup.

--Dunbar

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #19 10-02-2006, 09:17 PM

well im as big a supporter of perfect drift as most round here know but in this thread ill reply to the julien comments! lots of athletes including jocks have all the physical talent in the world but some dont have any brains whatsoever! this kid does! ive watched him ride so much and the majority of the time he puts his horse in the best possible spot to win. hada chance to meet julien this past summer and hes one helluva nice guy! his ride clearly won the race for us@churchill, luga pulled his crap hopping out the gate like hes done for other riders throughout his career but julien recovered quickly and made a very heady ride on him! i hope the people that are slamming him have religiously watched him ride. heres the winners circle pic from that day, luga is not only a very nice horse on the track but hes also pleasant to take care of and just be around. for as huge as he is hes a gentle giant

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/20610...68366524ptquQF

#20 10-03-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

well im as big a supporter of perfect drift as most round here know but in this thread ill reply to the julien comments! lots of athletes including jocks have all the physical talent in the world but some dont have any brains whatsoever! this kid does! ive watched him ride so much and the majority of the time he puts his horse in the best possible spot to win. hada chance to meet julien this past summer and hes one helluva nice guy! his ride clearly won the race for us@churchill, luga pulled his crap hopping out the gate like hes done for other riders throughout his career but julien recovered quickly and made a very heady ride on him! i hope the people that are slamming him have religiously watched him ride. heres the winners circle pic from that day, luga is not only a very nice horse on the track but hes also pleasant to take care of and just be around. for as huge as he is hes a gentle giant

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/20610...68366524ptquQF

So playa is doing the circuit. Cool.