BC Mile - George Washington

[King Glorious]

I'd look to the Classic with GW instead of the Mile if he were mine. Following the pattern of recent winners/runners-up in the QE II, I see Dubai Millennium, Giant's Causeway, Rakti, and Falbrav all listed there and each of those horses were better at 10f than they were at 8f. I think the QE II is a better prep for a 10f race in America than an 8f race. The only question would be how does GW handle dirt but I think the class is there to give it a try.

[Hwjb]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'd look to the Classic with GW instead of the Mile if he were mine. Following the pattern of recent winners/runners-up in the QE II, I see Dubai Millennium, Giant's Causeway, Rakti, and Falbrav all listed there and each of those horses were better at 10f than they were at 8f. I think the QE II is a better prep for a 10f race in America than an 8f race. The only question would be how does GW handle dirt but I think the class is there to give it a try.

You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

There is no way GW runs in this years Classic. He goes for the mile and will start favorite for that race.

Dylan Thomas is an intended runner for same connections in the Classic if he runs well in the JCGC.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by Johannesburg

There is no way GW runs in this years Classic. He goes for the mile and will start favorite for that race.

Dylan Thomas is an intended runner for same connections in the Classic if he runs well in the JCGC.

Dylan Thomas will be in the BC Turf after next weekend. He stands zero shot against Bernardini on the dirt. He might lost by double digits. George Washington would give Bernardini trouble, just like any good miler would. They probably wouldn't beat him, but the way the race would be run would change drastically. They would make any early move and he would have to decide to go with them or not. If he didn't, he might never catch them.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

I know. Just like they had no clue as to what they were doing when they ran Giant's Causeway in the Classic. Just like they had no clue when they ran Sakhee in the Classic. Or when they ran Falbrav in the 12f Turf. Or when they ran Arcangues in the Classic. Or when they ran 3yo filly Jolypha in the Classic.

Simply put, a classy horse is a classy horse. Sure, GW looks to be a miler at best but many horses that run in Europe and then come over to the states are easily able to handle longer distances than they did at home. The layouts of many European courses require more stamina at most distances than America races. I've not seen it anywhere but for my own handicapping purposes, I always feel very confident in backing a European horse over here when going a furlong or two over what they usually ran at home.

[my miss storm cat]

As an aside, Caradak won today..... he's possible for the Mile.

[Hwjb]

The Giant - Group 1 winner over 10f
Sakhee - Arc winner over 12f
Arcangues - 10f winner who hadn't run over a mile since his 2yo days.


There is about as much chance of George Washington being run over a distance in excess of a mile as there is of me not getting drunk tonight.


A votre sante!

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'd look to the Classic with GW instead of the Mile if he were mine. Following the pattern of recent winners/runners-up in the QE II, I see Dubai Millennium, Giant's Causeway, Rakti, and Falbrav all listed there and each of those horses were better at 10f than they were at 8f. I think the QE II is a better prep for a 10f race in America than an 8f race. The only question would be how does GW handle dirt but I think the class is there to give it a try.

Originally Posted by Hwjb

You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I know. Just like they had no clue as to what they were doing when they ran Giant's Causeway in the Classic. Just like they had no clue when they ran Sakhee in the Classic. Or when they ran Falbrav in the 12f Turf. Or when they ran Arcangues in the Classic. Or when they ran 3yo filly Jolypha in the Classic.

Simply put, a classy horse is a classy horse. Sure, GW looks to be a miler at best but many horses that run in Europe and then come over to the states are easily able to handle longer distances than they did at home. The layouts of many European courses require more stamina at most distances than America races. I've not seen it anywhere but for my own handicapping purposes, I always feel very confident in backing a European horse over here when going a furlong or two over what they usually ran at home.

Originally Posted by Hwjb

The Giant - Group 1 winner over 10f
Sakhee - Arc winner over 12f
Arcangues - 10f winner who hadn't run over a mile since his 2yo days.


There is about as much chance of George Washington being run over a distance in excess of a mile as there is of me not getting drunk tonight.


A votre sante!

I hope u enjoy your new sobriety. Listen, before u want to go off telling people how much of a clue they have or how ridiculous their ideas are, maybe u should open up to the possibilities that they could be right. Or at least that they could be on to something. I on this board from the moment that he won the QE II that he should be in the Classic and there was a chance of that and I was told how I was an idiot, don't have a clue, am stupid and unrealistic, and insane. None of that was necessary. Even if they don't run him in the Classic, they at least will have seriously considered it.

The problem with racing today, especially here in America, is too many closed minds. Everyone wants to stick with what has worked instead of trying something different. Everyone wants to say what horses CAN'T do before they even TRY them. Nobody wants to change the way we do things. Traditions are what is killing our game.