Glenn Beck

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by philcski

Sure, sounds great. Big military- how about 20X bigger than the next guy? We're already at 8X. Hell, why not go to 100X? Bigger military than we already have is absurd.

So sending $25 billion to Israel is being generous? Or should we expect people to send that money out of pocket? That's $100 per person. We can do it!

Let me ask you this: how has the effective tax rate changed over the last 30 years? How much do you expect your taxes to increase for 2011?

philcski - will you please stop "spinning". I originally responded on this issue to a poster who said, "Cut the defense budget by 50%". That's what's absurd. We frankly don't know how big China's or Iran's military arsenal is. We've already learned that all it takes is about a dozen nut cases and 3 highjacked airliners to take out several thousand people in the matter of a couple of hours. Military spending goes beyond weaponry and manpower. There's state of the art intelligence and keeping up with techology and highly technical people to manage such. That does not necessarily mean we have to increase the budget to increase the size. If those fat butt bureaucrats would just stay the heck out of the way of the military professionals and let them do their job and stop throwing monkey wrenches into the process passing ridiculous rules and regulations about where, how, and why desperately needed items are bought, the military would work more efficiently and do their job better.

And, the private sector and corporations have and continue to send money to Israel. I wonder how long that will be allowed. Talk about hate! Obama has shown nothing but disdain for Israel.

How much will my taxes be increased? I know that VAT is on the table, but I really can't imagine what else BO has on his taxation agenda. I continue to be astounded by his actions on a daily basis.

"I will not raise your taxes."

No, maybe he won't, but he'll find a dozen or more way to institute new taxes.

As long as you're so big at asking questions, let me ask you a question. How's that hopey changey BO thing working out for you?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You know how I get when it comes to the military.

LOL. I thought it was an insane post too until I figured out it was sarcasm.

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

philcski - will you please stop "spinning". I originally responded on this issue to a poster who said, "Cut the defense budget by 50%". That's what's absurd. We frankly don't know how big China's or Iran's military arsenal is. We've already learned that all it takes is about a dozen nut cases and 3 highjacked airliners to take out several thousand people in the matter of a couple of hours. Military spending goes beyond weaponry and manpower. There's state of the art intelligence and keeping up with techology and highly technical people to manage such. That does not necessarily mean we have to increase the budget to increase the size. If those fat butt bureaucrats would just stay the heck out of the way of the military professionals and let them do their job and stop throwing monkey wrenches into the process passing ridiculous rules and regulations about where, how, and why desperately needed items are bought, the military would work more efficiently and do their job better.

And, the private sector and corporations have and continue to send money to Israel. I wonder how long that will be allowed. Talk about hate! Obama has shown nothing but disdain for Israel.

How much will my taxes be increased? I know that VAT is on the table, but I really can't imagine what else BO has on his taxation agenda. I continue to be astounded by his actions on a daily basis.

"I will not raise your taxes."

No, maybe he won't, but he'll find a dozen or more way to institute new taxes.

As long as you're so big at asking questions, let me ask you a question. How's that hopey changey BO thing working out for you?

Precisely. The military's might served no purpose in 9/11, and that is no knock against it, because with all the best intelligence in the world we could not have known that was the time. There was nothing they could do. I should have died that day, believe me I'm all for national security against terrorism. We are fighting a different war now, an information war. Sourcing and sorting credible leads doesn't take guns and tanks, it takes information technology and code cracking geniuses.

We are not at war with China- and probably never will be in my or your lifetime. We are not at war with Iran. We do not need to expand the military financially or structurally. Another Packard Commission type approach is much needed, but how much do you think they will find? I sincerely hope there's not $400 hammers and $600 toilet seats out there again, and doubt it. Overspending is hidden in Raytheon's balance sheet and would be very tough to root out.

The effective tax rate has fluctuated under 3% in the 30 years since 1980 for everyone but those in the top 10%. We are in no different situation tax-wise as individuals as we have been since Carter.

Your taxes won't go up a dime 2011- in fact they probably will go down. Obama's tax plan affects those making over $250k and corporations which had cuts under the Bush administration.

I don't care about some hokey campaign slogan. Quite frankly, his "programs" outside of healthcare reform are pretty industry standard.

China would be toast in a matter of days.

Jesus, people.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by philcski

LOL. I thought it was an insane post too until I figured out it was sarcasm.
Precisely. The military's might served no purpose in 9/11, and that is no knock against it, because with all the best intelligence in the world we could not have known that was the time. There was nothing they could do. I should have died that day, believe me I'm all for national security against terrorism. We are fighting a different war now, an information war. Sourcing and sorting credible leads doesn't take guns and tanks, it takes information technology and code cracking geniuses.

We are not at war with China- and probably never will be in my or your lifetime. We are not at war with Iran. We do not need to expand the military financially or structurally. Another Packard Commission type approach is much needed, but how much do you think they will find? I sincerely hope there's not $400 hammers and $600 toilet seats out there again, and doubt it. Overspending is hidden in Raytheon's balance sheet and would be very tough to root out.

The effective tax rate has fluctuated under 3% in the 30 years since 1980 for everyone but those in the top 10%. We are in no different situation tax-wise as individuals as we have been since Carter.

Your taxes won't go up a dime 2011- in fact they probably will go down. Obama's tax plan affects those making over $250k and corporations which had cuts under the Bush administration.

I don't care about some hokey campaign slogan. Quite frankly, his "programs" outside of healthcare reform are pretty industry standard.

Technology and keeping up with it costs a LOT of money. It's probably more expensive than weaponry.

Don't ever think for a minute that China and/or Iran won't go to war with us or practice some form of terrorism.

I already said that Obama will probably hold true to his promise of not raising taxes, but new taxes will be imposed. How do you explain VAT being proposed. That's not in place of any current tax. It's a NEW tax.

I don't have much hope for the future of this country if it stays on its current socialistic, big government, tax, tax, tax, screw the military agenda. But, it's not my future any longer. Hopefully, the changes won't affect me given my "old" age. But, I'm happy to hear that you are comfortable with the way things are going. I hope you continue on the path to success, financial stability, and well-being.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Technology and keeping up with it costs a LOT of money. It's probably more expensive than weaponry.

Don't ever think for a minute that China and/or Iran won't go to war with us or practice some form of terrorism.

I already said that Obama will probably hold true to his promise of not raising taxes, but new taxes will be imposed. How do you explain VAT being proposed. That's not in place of any current tax. It's a NEW tax.

I don't have much hope for the future of this country if it stays on its current socialistic, big government, tax, tax, tax, screw the military agenda. But, it's not my future any longer. Hopefully, the changes won't affect me given my "old" age. But, I'm happy to hear that you are comfortable with the way things are going. I hope you continue on the path to success, financial stability, and well-being.

There is a 0% chance China would ever attack us. NONE. We account for approximately 20-25% of their GDP in terms of direct investments and exports. It would be a social and economic debacle of historic proportions.

Weaponry hasn't changed much in 40 years since Vietnam. The M16A1 rifle still remains the stock over the shoulder choice, why do we continue to buy new ones? The Browning .50 Caliber has been the heavy machine gun of choice since WWII and still in use with very little improvements, why do we need to buy new ones? The M48 Patton has been the tank of choice for years, and still works just fine, why spend money developing new ones? How about spending that money on retraining foot soldiers as antiterrorism information agents? Computers cost $500 apiece these days. Developing information databases and spy software isn't expensive in relative terms. If our military costs were cut in half we'd still have far and away the best and most powerful armed forces in the world by an exponential amount.

There is nothing socialistic about this country. 10% of the country still controls 80% of the wealth, which is as anti-socialistic ideals as you can get.

The biggest government program by all measures is the military. So how can you say we have "big government" and the military "is getting screwed" at the same time?!? How can we spend more money without raising taxes? Where does it get saved or redistributed?

VAT has no chance of getting passed in the next 5-10 years. It's a buzzword to get people riled up.

[Princess Doreen]

You keep dreaming, philcski. Maybe someday you'll wake up and smell the coffee.

I'm done on this topic. Said all I have to say. To say anything more would be in defense of what I've said already, and I'm not into defending my opinions.

I've got some bigger things in my personal life that I have to attend to. I've been a member of this forum for nearly 4 years. I hardly ever post to it because frankly - 3/4's of the time I don't know what the heck people are talking about. It seems like a secret society, at times. And, analyzing all that's been said here, the same thing applies. I don't understand what a lot of people are saying, and they accuse me of the same.

The difference is - I couldn't care less. Right is RIGHT.

I shall drag my knuckles back to my cave and leave y'all with smart azz remarks to say in response. Some of you need the last word. I do not.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

I'm not into defending my opinions.

We're going to be invaded by fish!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

You keep dreaming, philcski. Maybe someday you'll wake up and smell the coffee.

I'm done on this topic. Said all I have to say. To say anything more would be in defense of what I've said already, and I'm not into defending my opinions.

I've got some bigger things in my personal life that I have to attend to. I've been a member of this forum for nearly 4 years. I hardly ever post to it because frankly - 3/4's of the time I don't know what the heck people are talking about. It seems like a secret society, at times. And, analyzing all that's been said here, the same thing applies. I don't understand what a lot of people are saying, and they accuse me of the same.

The difference is - I couldn't care less. Right is RIGHT.

I shall drag my knuckles back to my cave and leave y'all with smart azz remarks to say in response. Some of you need the last word. I do not.

What am I dreaming about? What do I need to "wake up and smell the coffee" on?

Picture FROM TODAY!
Looks like China is ready to push the button

I am not accusing you of anything other than having misguided information, nor am I trying to get in a "last word". A lot of the stuff you have said just simply isn't true and I've given you the facts to dispute them, but you don't seem to care. You said you're an "informed voter" but then when presented with the facts you don't seem to digest them. It goes right back to what you want to believe.

Right is RIGHT alright- the extreme Right doesn't seem to listen or care to anyone else, even when presented with factual information that conflict their beliefs, just like the extreme Left.

It looks like Obama is getting on his knees.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Technology and keeping up with it costs a LOT of money. It's probably more expensive than weaponry.

Don't ever think for a minute that China and/or Iran won't go to war with us or practice some form of terrorism.

I already said that Obama will probably hold true to his promise of not raising taxes, but new taxes will be imposed. How do you explain VAT being proposed. That's not in place of any current tax. It's a NEW tax.

I don't have much hope for the future of this country if it stays on its current socialistic, big government, tax, tax, tax, screw the military agenda. But, it's not my future any longer. Hopefully, the changes won't affect me given my "old" age. But, I'm happy to hear that you are comfortable with the way things are going. I hope you continue on the path to success, financial stability, and well-being.

I like it that we are in agreement about the future of this country. Nice to know that some one else here has some sense.