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Old 04-11-2010, 12:59 PM
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Not sure if Obama has the country's best interest at heart. I'm sure he thinks he does, but "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." We don't have to worry about terrorists. At the rate Obama has us going, we're going to implode from within. Now we have to face the prospect of the VAT. Won't that just be hunky dory?!~ Just turn over your paychecks to Obama. He'll take care of everything.

The man just flat out scares me. Can't wait to see him voted out of office. I never thought I'd see the day when we could come up with a worse President than Jimmy Carter.
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Old 04-11-2010, 05:28 PM
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Not sure if Obama has the country's best interest at heart. I'm sure he thinks he does, but "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." We don't have to worry about terrorists. At the rate Obama has us going, we're going to implode from within. Now we have to face the prospect of the VAT. Won't that just be hunky dory?!~ Just turn over your paychecks to Obama. He'll take care of everything.

The man just flat out scares me. Can't wait to see him voted out of office. I never thought I'd see the day when we could come up with a worse President than Jimmy Carter.
I will 2nd your statement. At least some one else here has a clue.
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Old 04-11-2010, 06:04 PM
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Burtz, Rush and Beck ... gag. I haven't been able to listen to Rush for at least 10 years. I can't take his overt racism and hate, and the outright lies.

Beck has pretty much been outed as the "tele-evangelist"-type fear-mongering playa he is. "Buy gold and hoard it!" LOL! He knows how to make a buck off scaring his listeners.

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The American public didn't want the Health care reform, yet he rams through Congress against the American public's wishes.
That doesn't seem the reality to me. Obama ran on health reform, he won by the biggest Democratic electoral majority in 40-50 years.

The public clearly DOES want health reform, and according to the polls, the public wanted more than we got, such as a public option.

All we got so far, really, are finally some decent consumer protections. We didn't even get as much as Nixon and Reagan proposed for health reform. We really didn't get much "health reform" at all.

Hopefully that continues in the future, however.
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:40 PM
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It's really unfortunate how much the words "racist" and "racism" are bandied about. They have lost their meaning since the stridently liberal, left wing media has gotten hold of the words and accuses everyone of being a racist who doesn't fall into lockstep with the liberal left. The overuse of the words has rubbed off on the members of the left and Obama supporters who still don't have a clue as to how dangerous this man is to America. Sliding slightly off topic here - he sure is giving the shaft to one of our staunchest allies - Israel. Maybe he thinks the terrorist nations will like us better. HAH!

Back on the subject of racism. I'd like to give a little lesson in simple English definitions. Calling someone a racist is as bad as calling a black person the "N" word. The word "racism" has to be put into its proper perspective. Members of the KKK, The Aryan Nation, and other such "hate" groups are racists - not the Tea Party members, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, conservatives, or anyone who has the temerity to criticize PREZBO.

Racism is a belief that one race is superior to all others.
I hate black people. I wish they would all die.
That's racism.

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
Black people like watermelon and fried chicken.
That's bigotry

Prejudice is an opinion without any means of support.
All black people hurt the economy.
That's prejudice

Discrimination is treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit.
I'd never hire a black person
That's discrimination

So, let's give the words "racism" and "racist" a rest and think long and hard about who you wish to accuse of being one or practicing it.

Further, I haven't heard anytime or read anywhere where Limbaugh, Boortz, Hannity, or Beck can be accused of bigotry, prejudice, or discrimination - much less racism.

Sorry for the soapbox, but my blood boils when I hear people who don't deserve the indignity being accused of racism or being called a racist. It's ignorance and/or stupidity in its highest form.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:05 PM
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It's really unfortunate how much the words "racist" and "racism" are bandied about. They have lost their meaning since the stridently liberal, left wing media has gotten hold of the words and accuses everyone of being a racist who doesn't fall into lockstep with the liberal left. The overuse of the words has rubbed off on the members of the left and Obama supporters who still don't have a clue as to how dangerous this man is to America. Sliding slightly off topic here - he sure is giving the shaft to one of our staunchest allies - Israel. Maybe he thinks the terrorist nations will like us better. HAH!

Back on the subject of racism. I'd like to give a little lesson in simple English definitions. Calling someone a racist is as bad as calling a black person the "N" word. The word "racism" has to be put into its proper perspective. Members of the KKK, The Aryan Nation, and other such "hate" groups are racists - not the Tea Party members, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, conservatives, or anyone who has the temerity to criticize PREZBO.

Racism is a belief that one race is superior to all others.
I hate black people. I wish they would all die.
That's racism.

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
Black people like watermelon and fried chicken.
That's bigotry

Prejudice is an opinion without any means of support.
All black people hurt the economy.
That's prejudice

Discrimination is treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit.
I'd never hire a black person
That's discrimination

So, let's give the words "racism" and "racist" a rest and think long and hard about who you wish to accuse of being one or practicing it.

Further, I haven't heard anytime or read anywhere where Limbaugh, Boortz, Hannity, or Beck can be accused of bigotry, prejudice, or discrimination - much less racism.

Sorry for the soapbox, but my blood boils when I hear people who don't deserve the indignity being accused of racism or being called a racist. It's ignorance and/or stupidity in its highest form.
Such ignorant and assinine comments really don't derserve a response!If you think they're are not racist members of the tea party movement, then you've just taken ignorance to an entirely new level! When idiots like Hannity for example get up in fron of a tea party crowd, and call that same crowd quote "all these Tim McVeigh wanna be's" and the crowd cheers, we have some twisted people within this movement! Some of which are capable of violence, and that is disturbing as hell!
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:08 PM
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Such ignorant and assinine comments really don't derserve a response!!
Yet - you responded. I'm much too well adjusted to take your insults to heart. What flavor KOOL-AID do you drink with your Corn Dogs?!~
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Such ignorant and assinine comments really don't derserve a response!If you think they're are not racist members of the tea party movement, then you've just taken ignorance to an entirely new level! When idiots like Hannity for example get up in fron of a tea party crowd, and call that same crowd quote "all these Tim McVeigh wanna be's" and the crowd cheers, we have some twisted people within this movement! Some of which are capable of violence, and that is disturbing as hell!
And there's no racists in Dem party?? They been screwing the black people for about 50-60 yrs. One speech doesn't a tea party make. When people reach a level of exasperation, why would you not think there would be a response to the way the country is headed?
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:24 PM
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Calling someone a racist is as bad as calling a black person the "N" word.
Wow.

Just wow.

Someone who says something like that should not be given even one ounce of credibility when talking about race or racism. And I'd assume calling someone homophobic is the same as calling a gay person a fag, right?
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:37 PM
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Wow.

Just wow.

Someone who says something like that should not be given even one ounce of credibility when talking about race or racism. And I'd assume calling someone homophobic is the same as calling a gay person a fag, right?
I fail to see the analogy. I posted definitions of four words. Dispute them, but spare me your opinion that I lack credibility. That's become a boring comeback by a lot of libs who can't think up a "credible" retort.
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I fail to see the analogy. I posted definitions of four words. Dispute them, but spare me your opinion that I lack credibility. That's become a boring comeback by a lot of libs who can't think up a "credible" retort.
I'm not arguing your dictionary definitions, perhaps I'd argue your personal interpretation of what those words mean, but that's why I didn't quote your entire post, because it was frankly boring and uninteresting once I passed this privileged, racist (oh shoot, did I just call you the N word accidentally?!) little gem:

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Calling someone a racist is as bad as calling a black person the "N" word.
So I'm actually here to "dispute" your assertion that calling someone a racist is as bad as calling someone the "N" word, by which logic, calling someone a homophobe would be just as bad as calling someone a "fag."

Either embrace your logic or don't; your failure to see the analogy is the failure to embrace your own twisted logic quoted above. Just wondering if you really want to own that quote.
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I could care less what race he is and political party he is with. Whoever is President I just want them to do a good job and not ruin this country. I have never brought up the race card like you are.
Dude... I live in Kentucky now. If you want to call me a profiler, fine, but every right wing conservative that's a NASCAR fan and an NRA fan is also racist. I know what type of person you are. You hate him.

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Two words that would put this country on the road to economic recovery - FAIR TAX.
Explain to me what you mean by Fair Tax. It's almost an oxymoron- since there's so many ways to generate and slice the pie.

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Sliding slightly off topic here - he sure is giving the shaft to one of our staunchest allies - Israel. Maybe he thinks the terrorist nations will like us better. HAH!
Calling it "giving Israel the shaft" is far from the truth.

Obviously, a strong Israeli-American relationship is important because it gives us a military foothold in a region we most need it, and culturally it's the only country in the Middle East that has any similarity to the US. However, are we spending too much money for it? The 2010 budget has $53 billion for international affairs, of which 50%(!!!) is appropriated for Israel- $4,000 per person in Israel! A good amount of this goes into developing weaponry in Israel, whereas in the last 10 years they have proceeded to try to sell these goods to potentially unsavory types (particularly China- whom I'd hope is not a threat but who knows.) Israel needs us a lot more than we need them... and we need them, but at what cost? (BTW, I don't think anybody, especially the President, has illusions that if we ever cut ties with Israel that the terrorist nations would "like" us better.)

That being said- Joe Biden's writer should be fired for his use of words. While I think the motion was correct, because another Israel-Palestine conflict would cost the USA significantly on much ado about nothing (an APARTMENT BUILDING!!!) the word "condemn" was far too strong.
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:39 PM
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Wow.

Just wow.

Someone who says something like that should not be given even one ounce of credibility when talking about race or racism. And I'd assume calling someone homophobic is the same as calling a gay person a fag, right?
Just to be sure,Brian....Do you speak from and for the gay perspective? Should everything a person says be run through the various "filters"?
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:44 PM
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Just to be sure,Brian....Do you speak from and for the gay perspective? Should everything a person says be run through the various "filters"?
I am speaking for me in wondering how much P. Doreen wants to own the entirely racist idea that "calling someone a racist is the same as calling a black person the 'N' word."

No more, no less.
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Wow.

Just wow.

Someone who says something like that should not be given even one ounce of credibility when talking about race or racism. And I'd assume calling someone homophobic is the same as calling a gay person a fag, right?
i didn't think credibility would be an issue considering the first paragraph in the post with the 'definitions'.
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It's really unfortunate how much the words "racist" and "racism" are bandied about. They have lost their meaning since the stridently liberal, left wing media has gotten hold of the words and accuses everyone of being a racist who doesn't fall into lockstep with the liberal left.
Or, I can use it completely appropriately for a guy who is overtly and repeatedly racist in his statements.

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And my blood boils when I hear people treat the President of the United States with rudeness and disrespect, such as questioning if he has the best interests of our country at heart. It's ignorance and/or stupidity in it's highest form. I go with stupid.
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Or, I can use it completely appropriately for a guy who is overtly and repeatedly racist in his statements.



And my blood boils when I hear people treat the President of the United States with rudeness and disrespect, such as questioning if he has the best interests of our country at heart. It's ignorance and/or stupidity in it's highest form. I go with stupid.
He's not acting like he has the countrys' interests at heart. Don't even bother tellin me we're ahead of this time last year. The office of the POTUS has been trashed by the actions of the incumbent. But that's just me
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He's not acting like he has the countrys' interests at heart.
Really? How? Name several specific instances.

Get real - he's not acting like you want. That's not the same thing.
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