4/10 (KEE): Blue Grass, Commonwealth, Wiley, Shakertown

Betsy · #1 04-10-2010, 04:36 PM

I don't get why Odysseus ran here instead of the Arkansas Derby; all this race proved is that he doesn't handle polytrack - he got nothing out of this race.

randallscott35 · #2 04-10-2010, 04:37 PM

I was pulling for that dude with the pregnant wife. Sucks to be 2nd in there.

Indian Charlie · #3 04-10-2010, 04:39 PM

I'm not sure how anyone can like Keeneland anymore.

That track is a dart board.

mbahadur · #4 04-10-2010, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm not sure how anyone can like Keeneland anymore.

That track is a dart board.

On paper Stately Victor looked about as appealing as Nicky Boy would have been in the Wood Memorial.

justindew · #5 04-10-2010, 04:46 PM

How long before we hear that Keeneland is considering going back to dirt?

fpsoxfan · #6 04-10-2010, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew

How long before we hear that Keeneland is considering going back to dirt?

Not soon enough Justin!

jms62 · #7 04-10-2010, 04:48 PM

Mine that Bird didn't look all that wonderful either on paper... Its racing S

hit happens

Left Bank · #8 04-10-2010, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm not sure how anyone can like Keeneland anymore.

That track is a dart board.

Maybe people will start understanding what Nick Zito has been saying all along.If I had a derby horse,I wouldn't include a Keeneland race in my plans.

ArlJim78 · #9 04-10-2010, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Left Bank

Maybe people will start understanding what Nick Zito has been saying all along.If I had a derby horse,I wouldn't include a Keeneland race in my plans.

lately you could say the same thing about the Wood.
Its only been three years on the synthetic at Keeneland, and it has produced one derby winner in Street Sense.

To my eye, there was nothing flukey looking about Stately Victor. I'm going to give him a long look in three weeks.

Left Bank · #10 04-10-2010, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

lately you could say the same thing about the Wood.
Its only been three years on the synthetic at Keeneland, and it has produced one derby winner in Street Sense.

To my eye, there was nothing flukey looking about Stately Victor. I'm going to give him a long look in three weeks.

Good for you.

booner · #11 04-10-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm not sure how anyone can like Keeneland anymore.

That track is a dart board.

I have given up on Keeneland's main track. I only stick to the turf now.

On another note, it was an absolutely gorgeous day. The wife and myself had a great time. That place was absolutely packed.

johnny pinwheel · #12 04-11-2010, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner

I have given up on Keeneland's main track. I only stick to the turf now.

On another note, it was an absolutely gorgeous day. The wife and myself had a great time. That place was absolutely packed.

i'm with you. like i said in another thread , that poly track is like betting finger lakes. yes, freaky things happen on dirt but not like it does on that rat trap track. lets see how this horse runs (stately victor) in three weeks. i may be wrong but my prediction is yet another blue grass winner that pulls up the rear. what used to be a great dirt track is now an absolute joke. zito is right, why prep there, unless you don't need the money and its just a training move ala street sense. if you are seriously trying to win that race as a foundation for the derby as a trainer you would be out of your mind to go there. the entries each year increasingly prove this. that was the crappiest field i can remember for the race. the favorites were interactif (grass horse) and paddy o prado(another grade 3 grass). oh yeah, a stellar edition for 750,000.....lol. once again, i'm kicking myself for even attempting to bet that garbage yesterday. it was the first main track bet i made there since the meet opened!

jms62 · #13 04-11-2010, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

i'm with you. like i said in another thread , that poly track is like betting finger lakes. yes, freaky things happen on dirt but not like it does on that rat trap track. lets see how this horse runs (stately victor) in three weeks. i may be wrong but my prediction is yet another blue grass winner that pulls up the rear. what used to be a great dirt track is now an absolute joke. zito is right, why prep there, unless you don't need the money and its just a training move ala street sense. if you are seriously trying to win that race as a foundation for the derby as a trainer you would be out of your mind to go there. the entries each year increasingly prove this. that was the crappiest field i can remember for the race. the favorites were interactif (grass horse) and paddy o prado(another grade 3 grass). oh yeah, a stellar edition for 750,000.....lol. once again, i'm kicking myself for even attempting to bet that garbage yesterday. it was the first main track bet i made there since the meet opened!

Gotta love the whiners that complain to high heaven about poly but bet it anyway..

the_fat_man · #14 04-11-2010, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62

Gotta love the whiners that complain to high heaven about poly but bet it anyway..

Hey, simple things for simple people. The Arkansas Derby, with it's 1-2-3 around the track result, and the winner coming again after getting passed in the lane, is right up their alley. Now, that's good/fair/predictable racing.

In fact, all racing should really be like the AQU INNER track.

fpsoxfan · #15 04-10-2010, 04:43 PM

Well....that's poly for ya. If you came up with that, then you are a genius.

cakes44 · #16 04-10-2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy

I don't get why Odysseus ran here instead of the Arkansas Derby; all this race proved is that he doesn't handle polytrack - he got nothing out of this race.

Other than maybe a start in the Preakness.

mbahadur · #17 04-10-2010, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy

I don't get why Odysseus ran here instead of the Arkansas Derby; all this race proved is that he doesn't handle polytrack - he got nothing out of this race.

A number of us have been questioning this for the last couple weeks. When you need 3rd place and above earnings to run a horse coming off a dirt stakes win in the Kentucky Derby, should you experiment with running him first time on synthetic against proven synthetic and turf horses.

jms62 · #18 04-10-2010, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbahadur

A number of us have been questioning this for the last couple weeks. When you need 3rd place and above earnings to run a horse coming off a dirt stakes win in the Kentucky Derby, should you experiment with running him first time on synthetic against proven synthetic and turf horses.

You do if you think you are the smartest man in the world. First choice was to rest him until the derby. Those are two very odd choices. I guess my future ticket at 125-1 is a toss.

Betsy · #19 04-10-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbahadur

A number of us have been questioning this for the last couple weeks. When you need 3rd place and above earnings to run a horse coming off a dirt stakes win in the Kentucky Derby, should you experiment with running him first time on synthetic against proven synthetic and turf horses.

It just makes no sense.........I think the horse is very talented and I'm sorry that he won't make the Derby, but they should be penalized for making a stupid decision.

fpsoxfan · #20 04-10-2010, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy

It just makes no sense.........I think the horse is very talented and I'm sorry that he won't make the Derby, but they should be penalized for making a stupid decision.

Agree