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09-29-2006, 12:12 PM
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Wow.------------
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09-29-2006, 12:17 PM
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Jeez, 10 minutes notice before they take the horse. Holthus deserved a little better than that, no?
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09-29-2006, 12:18 PM
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THink Holthus deserved better, but there's no doubt Pletcher will move him up, at least I think he will. Immediately bumped up a couple notches in my book especially given that he'll get a new jock with Pletcher in charge.
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09-29-2006, 12:21 PM
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More to it than "deserved better"..
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09-29-2006, 12:24 PM
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Steve, that's really weak. Switching doesn't kill me but to do it that way is classless. I hope they realize that he deserves an apology for that garbage.
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09-29-2006, 12:28 PM
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09-29-2006, 12:35 PM
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People don't care anymore, about anything. Too many people have forgotten about old fashion values, being loyal and trustworthy.
I BLAME TV and Movies for hardening the youth......ok, I just wanted to see what that excuse actually feels like when ridiculous people say it. Fact is that Karma is a bitch, and sometimes it is really bitchy and sometimes it just hurts a little but KARMA always comes and gets ya when you mess with it
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09-29-2006, 12:36 PM
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I think this is a bad move.
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09-29-2006, 12:39 PM
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I'll say it again, it's definitely a terrible way to do business, but does anybody really think it doesn't make sense?
What would everybody say if Funny Cide were (finally) taken out of Tagg's hands?
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09-29-2006, 12:39 PM
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Agreed..
If there was an unhappiness with things you think they could have made a rider switch first, had McKee specifically been the issue..
I'll speculate that there's a Breeders' Cup Classic appearance at the center of this... Stonewall likely wants in and Holthus may have been advising against?? Makes as much sense as anything... Frankly, and I'm not looking to insult Holthus or McKee with this, I don't think they did a good job at all trying to find ways to get Lawyer Ron to relax. You cannot get a free-running horse to "rate" by tugging on him. All that does is make him run harder. That exhausts rider and horse.. You throw the reins at him and let him rate on his own. The horse will do it HIMSELF... You then pick up the reins when you want him to get back into the bit. (As a sidebar to the above, I had a great talk yesterday with Precisionist's trainer Ross Fenstermaker who had Chris McCarron do EXACTLY this in the Silver Screen and Swaps... 5,000 win rider Tony Black also discussed it yesterday with us on ATRAB and said the same thing... Fenstermaker will be on the show tonight to talk about his late Hall of Famer, and I'll now try to get McCarron as well...)
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09-29-2006, 12:46 PM
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I would have done the rider switch first.
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09-30-2006, 10:50 AM
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If riders screw up many times, then I suppose they DO mean something in the scheme of things.. And on the subject of horses that DEMAND the lead, they mean a ton. You don't see where a guy as small as McKee is ineffectual on this horse? And that his attempted chokeholds are the problem? Please.. As mentioned way back in the thread, the death of Precisionist this week just happened to bring out trainer Ross Fenstermaker and a discussion of how he had McCarron learn to let the horse relax. He had him drop the reins, grab mane and let Precisionist 'rate himself'... which is what many a horse will do. But if you pull on a horse, he pulls back. Wasted energy on both side of the equation... Still no word on the details of the trainer stipulation in the bill of sale... But I heard from an employee involved in this at CD yesterday, and he said that the Holthus people had been under the impression, likely from the Hines people, that the horse would finish his career under their supervision... The move is 'wrong' on many fronts, and while horses have been moved forever, this particular episode is another symptom in an ill patient...
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09-29-2006, 01:37 PM
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not completely a surprise. they have an interest in the horse for the long run, can't say i blame them. ten minutes notice is crappy for sure tho!!
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09-29-2006, 01:43 PM
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I don't see why folks are upset about the "short" 10 minutes notice.
I've been downsized and I can't imagine that 10 minutes extra in my office would have been all that special. It happens. Holthus will be all right.
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